And the Welcome to Straightwide American Jesus. My name is Brad O'Niche,

Associate Professor Religious Studies, Gilmore College, and I'm back with my co-host this week.

Dan Miller, Associate Professor. College and I'm back with my co-host this week.

Dan Miller, Associate Professor of Religion and Social Thought of Landmark College.

Good to be back. Brad, I was out last week doing 4th of July stuff, so thanks for holding down the fort. So Dan, you and I have been friends a long time. We get along in just most ways in life. We overlap on politics, theology, a lot of stuff.

But you know, my dad's from Maui,

grew up in California.

I love nothing more than the sand in my toes.

I used to go surfing as a kid and at times like when I was 16 like

16 year old me would would not shower after surfing and therefore there would be

like sand in my bed and I just didn't bother me I thought it was great and you went to a little trip with the family this week went to the beach and this is just the place where we diverge you are not a beach person is that is that fair?

I am not a beach person I went to an arrogance at Rhode Island for those who aren't

sort of familiar with New England we do have beaches to get hot and warm and

and you can actually swim in them and stuff.

Yeah, I basically, I feel like humans spent like billions of years evolving to escape the sea and I just, I kind of,

I don't get the appeal.

No, like, like, No like like I like I like the ocean I love

sitting by the ocean I love sitting somewhere and like hearing the surf and

feeling the breeze and maybe like reading a good book because I'm a nerd and that's my favorite thing to do and whatever but like like sitting on the beach just like I'm good for like you know 20 minutes my family my kids and my wife are like

parked fish and we'll do it for just hours so like here's here's my stories I was

we're doing story time a few years ago my first like proper beach experience I think really with my my family I grew I grew up in landlocked state that's got to be part of this right we go to the beach we go to

Neregansit and my wife and at the time young kid is one and the other one is

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