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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Suckston show podcast.

Second hour of Clay and Box starts right now.

And as you know, we've discussed frequently here on the show the future of all things Trump and the law.

He has multiple criminal indictments outstanding at this point.

And it seems that some of those trials,

or one or two of those trials may actually go forward before the election.

We talked to Julie Kelly about that in a little bit.

But there is currently a trial underway in New York City.

Former President Trump is on trial in a $250 million lawsuit.

And he has also been, this was the breaking news.

I think that there's a whole segment of Democrats for whom watching Trump on trial is this guilty pleasure.

They just love the idea of him being in a courtroom and being harassed and having to go through all of this.

But he was just fined $10,000, Clay, for violating by this judge, Engaron, who we all know is clearly an

anti-Trump fanatic.

This is in a civil trial, so he can't lock him up, but, well, maybe for contempt.

But he's already fined him $10,000, and this is because the judge says that Trump referred disparagingly to a law clerk during making a statement outside the court.

I think Trump is saying he was actually talking about Michael Cohen, whom I believe he's certainly allowed to disparage Michael Cohen.

He's done arguing about who the insult is directed to is a very Trump dispute.

He's very Trump, very Trump thing.

He's like, that's not who I was making fun of.

I was making fun of another person.

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