A very open to beer. So I'm not going to just go ahead and open another one. But welcome to a special second episode of the Weekender edition of the Muckrake podcast. Jared Yates Sexton, as promised, I'm going to sit down and I'm going to talk with Sarah Kinsey here. You know her, you love her. Her new book available for pre-order is The Last American Road Trip. Not only is

Sarah prescient and insightful and one of our absolute most indispensable voices, she's also

a hell of a writer. You're going to want to go over and go ahead and pre-order the Last American Road Trip.

If you're like me, I like to pre-order a book, kind of forget that it's coming and one day it shows up on my doorstep.

I don't know. Pretty cool.

A reminder, go over to patreon.com slash munkwreck podcast to listen to this interview in full. If you are already supporting the show,

thank you so much. You are really, really helping us out. And during these times, it means so much to us

that you trust our analysis, that you trust us to give you the news that no one else is going to give, it literally means the world

to us. All right. So without further ado, this is my conversation with the one and only, Sarah Kins here.

Hope you enjoy. All right, as promised, I am here with my friend Sarah Kinsier. Her new book, The Last American Road Trip, is now available for pre-order, correct?

Yes, it is.

Listen, if this thing reads it all like what your substack has been reading like, I think we're all in for not just a treat, but a really useful and important piece of work.

I couldn't be more excited about it.

Oh, thank you so much.

And yes, it's very much in the vein of the substack and in the vein of any kind of

travelogue, road trip aspect of the previous books, which somehow always managed to

sneak its way in there.

And now I just went full throttle.

So I hope everybody enjoys and you might

actually enjoy less terrifying this time around. Yeah, right. I mean, you know, you and I were talking about

we talk about this all the time. It's like everything that is enjoyable or everything that is

hopeful is still sort of tinged with the, you know, to borrow the boss's phrase, the darkness on

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