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🗓️ 18 October 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Half of working dads feel nervous asking for time off to care for their children, more than 20% have been asked ‘where’s your wife/partner?’ when requesting flexibility and 44% say employers treat mothers more favourably in terms of flexible working. These are the findings of a new study ‘Barriers to Equal Parenting’ by the charity Working Families. Nuala McGovern is joined by Elliott Rae founder of Parenting Out Loud and Penny East, chief executive of the Fawcett Society.
Tilda Swinton is one of the UK’s most singular and celebrated performers. Over four decades she has delivered unforgettable and varied screen performances, notably Orlando, The Chronicles of Narnia, Michael Clayton and Asteroid City and collaborated with artists and filmmakers. She joins Anita Rani to talk about a new exhibition in Amsterdam celebrating her work and the enduring relationships that have inspired her.
There is a new film out now in cinemas called I Swear. It is inspired by the life and experiences of John Davidson, and charts his journey from a misunderstood teenager in 1980s Britain to a present-day advocate for greater understanding of Tourette syndrome. John was also featured in a BBC documentary back in 1989 called John's Not Mad. There is more recognition of the syndrome now, singers Lewis Capaldi and Billie Eilish have both openly talked about living with Tourette's and it's estimated over 300,000 children and adults in the UK have it. The key features are tics which cause people to make sudden, involuntary sounds and movements. To hear more about the condition and how it impacts women and girls Nuala talks to Wilamena Dyer, musician and Tourette syndrome advocate and Dr Tara Murphy, Consultant psychologist in the NHS, and Trustee of the support and research charity Tourettes Action.
Karen Carney is one of the most capped female footballers for England. The former Lioness joins Anita to talk about how she is using Strictly to help her 'rebuild confidence' after being 'crushed' by the sexist abuse she faced as a football pundit and her vision to improve women’s sport.
Bobbi Brown is a make-up artist turned entrepreneur who created her now famous eponymous line in 1990. Her fresh-faced approach went against 80s and 90s trends at the time for bright colour and contouring and instead aimed to celebrate and enhance women’s natural beauty. She made millions selling her brand to Estée Lauder and has gone on to create a new multimillion brand. On the release of her memoir, she joins Nuala to talk about her life and work.
Presenter: Anita Rani Producer: Simon Richardson
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| 0:10.5 | Evil genius. |
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| 0:43.5 | Coming up on the show, makeup artist Bobby Brown talks New York in the 80s, what she learned from Jerry Hall and how she found the courage to forge her own path. |
| 0:53.9 | We discuss what it's like living |
| 0:55.4 | with Tourette's syndrome. Did you know the condition affects more women than men? Tilda Swinton |
| 1:00.3 | on a new exhibition about her life and career. I asked myself, how could a show dedicated to your |
| 1:07.0 | 40 years of work be useful? And the thing that I feel I kind of stand for is fellowship. |
| 1:13.2 | I've worked for 40 years now in long-term relationships with quite a lot of people who want to |
| 1:20.8 | work in this way. And Karen Carney, the former England football captain, talks about overcoming |
| 1:26.1 | online trolls and strictly come dancing. |
| 1:29.7 | But first, we're going to look at attitudes to dads in the workplace and what that means for all families. |
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