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Woman's Hour

Weekend Woman's Hour: Rugby star Ellie Kildunne, Kimberlé Crenshaw

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

World Rugby Player of the Year and World Cup Champion Ellie Kildunne joins Nuala McGovern fresh from a Player of the Match performance at the Six Nations final. She reflects on her rise to the top and the story behind her memoir Game Changer.

What are the implications for girls and young women of Alan Milburn's review for the Government into rising levels of inactivity among 16 to 24-year-olds? There are currently just under a million young people in this age range dubbed NEETs because they are not in education, employment or training. Anita Rani speaks to Baroness Smith, Minister for Skills, as well as the Minister for Women and Equalities.

As part of our special programme on wonder — how to find it and how to hold on to it when life gets in the way —Nuala speaks to Dr Jean Bennett, the research scientist whose medical breakthrough recently restored the sight of a six-year-old girl.

Would you ever consider working from your bed? Perhaps you do, by choice or otherwise? Dermatologist Dr Alexis Granite and The Archers Podcast's Emma Freud are both fans and join Anita to discuss.

When the American Professor of Law Kimberlé Crenshaw was five years old, at the time of the civil rights era in Ohio, USA, she was allowed to portray a witch but not a princess in a nursery play. Puzzled by her teacher’s behaviour, Kimberlé spoke up and never stopped, firmly establishing herself as a Backtalker, the name of her new memoir. Kimberlé joins Anita to talk about becoming a pioneering scholar and writer on civil rights and her instinct to question power and challenge what others accept as fair.

Presenter: Anita Rani Producer: Dianne McGregor

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:07.2

Things just swirling around my head.

0:09.6

Am I really the product of this?

0:12.1

Astonishing secrets uncovered by at-home DNA tests.

0:17.0

Little did I know what more was to come.

0:19.5

I'm Jenny Clemen, and in the new series of The Gift, we'll hear more stories emerging

0:25.2

out of the ever-expanding global DNA database.

0:28.8

They did know that I was different.

0:31.7

You had kids together.

0:33.0

Yeah.

0:33.5

Then you met.

0:34.3

Then we met.

0:35.2

The Gift.

0:36.1

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:39.4

Hello, I'm Anita Rani and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:44.3

Hello and welcome to the programme.

0:46.3

Coming up, we have England rugby superstar Ellie Kildun fresh from her latest Six Nations win.

0:52.7

We'll also hear from Dr. Jean Bennett,

0:55.2

the research scientist whose medical breakthrough recently restored the sight of a six-year-old girl.

1:01.2

She coined the terms intersectionality and critical race theory.

1:04.9

Now Kimberly Crenshaw has written a memoir, Backtalker.

1:08.4

She'll be here to explain it all.

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