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Hello, you're about to listen to a BBC podcast, and I'm Ed Gamble, host of another BBC podcast, The Traitors Uncloaked.

But my show is available only on BBC Sounds, just like Ellis and John's Saturday bonus episodes,

The Pop Top Ten podcast with Scott Mills and Rylan, and comedy specials

from the likes of Harriet Kemsley, Susie Ruffel and Rommashranganathan. However, and maybe I'm biased,

it's really all about the traitors uncloked. So for a whole bunch of exclusive scoops and

podcasts, listen only on BBC Sounds. Hello, I'm Anita Rani and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

Just to say that for rights reasons, the music in the original radio broadcast has been removed for this podcast.

Hello and welcome to a slightly shorter programme today.

We'll be looking ahead to the Winter Olympics with two Olympians, snowboarder Amy Fuller and sprinter Jeanette Coacci, who'll be broadcasting from Italy in under a week's time. These will be the most gender-balanced games in Winter Olympic history. And I'll be talking to singer-songwriter Paris Paloma, whose track Labor about women's unpaid work went viral with more than 11 billion views across social media.

But first, there's been a stark warning to MPs about the number of women pensioners living in poverty.

The House of Commons' Work and Pensions Committee has been hearing that the pension system is dysfunctional and is contributing to more gender disparity.

That's according to the feminist economic think tank, the Women's Budget Group, which gave evidence this week.

Their director, Dr Daniela Jenkins, says that when the pension age rises to 67 in April, there's a risk that poverty will only

increase for older women. She joined me, along with Sarah Pennell's consumer finance specialist

at Royal London. The following discussion took place before Thursday's announcement that the

government has again rejected claims for compensation for women born in the 1950s who were affected by changes to the state pension age.

I began by asking Daniela about the scale of the gender pension gap.

The UK has the second worst, the second highest gender pensions gap across the whole of the OECD.

So the only country that has a bigger gender pensions gap is Japan.

Wow. So that's even when you take into account countries like the US, for example, they sit

around the median. So we know that there is something within the design of the pension system in the UK

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