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🗓️ 6 December 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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When Jacinda Ardern became Prime Minister of New Zealand in 2017 at the age of 37, she was the youngest female head of government in the world. She also made history as only the second elected leader to give birth while in office. She resigned in 2023 after more than five years in post saying she no longer had enough in the tank and, since then, has engaged in global work focused on empathy in leadership and the prevention of online extremism. As a new documentary film, Prime Minister, is out in cinemas now, Jacinda talks to Kylie Pentelow.
The government has just unveiled its new HIV Action Plan with the stated goal of tackling stigma and to end transmissions in England by 2030. Public Health Minister Ashley Dalton discusses the policy along with Ellie Harrison, who was diagnosed HIV positive when she was 21.
Are friendships with exes a bad idea or a sign of growing up? Journalist Olivia Petter and comedian Rosie Wilby join Nuala McGovern to explore how relationships with ex-partners evolve after a breakup, and why staying in touch can look different in straight and LGBTQ+ communities.
Columnist Sarah Vine started losing her hair as a teenager and was eventually diagnosed with female pattern baldness, a hormonal condition. But now she has decided, after 15 years of wearing wigs, to reveal her own hair on the front cover of a national newspaper. She speaks about her decision to bare all.
We examine new data that reveals the number of teachers leaving the profession after becoming parents. We explore why, and what’s being done about it. Emma Shepherd is the founder of the Maternity Teacher Paternity Teacher Project and Branwen Jeffries is the BBC's Education Editor.
Do you like everything to be perfect for dinner party hosting – the spotless house, the elaborate menu, the Instagram-worthy table setting? But what if the secret to a great dinner party isn’t perfection, but scruffy hosting – a trend that is apparently transforming the way we gather together and makes stress-free dinner parties more attainable - perhaps a one-pot dinner, mismatched cutlery, toys under the table or children running around screaming. Helen Thorn, Comedian, Podcaster and one half of Scummy Mummies tells Nuala why she embraces this type of hosting.
Presenter: Kylie Pentelow Producer: Dianne McGregor
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| 0:35.8 | Hello and welcome to the programme coming up. The former Prime Minister |
| 0:39.8 | of New Zealand, Jacinda Ardern, on compassion in leadership. Plus, why are so many teachers |
| 0:46.3 | leaving the profession after having children? Also, can you really be friends with your ex? We'll be |
| 0:53.1 | finding out. Plus, we'll be discussing |
| 0:55.6 | hair loss. After 15 years of wearing a wig, columnist Sarah Vine has gone public with her real |
| 1:02.2 | hair, she explains why. And the trend of scruffy dinner party hosting. Is it the secret to |
| 1:10.1 | stress-free socialising? But first, on Monday's |
| 1:14.1 | World AIDS Day, the government unveiled its new HIV action plan with the stated goal of |
| 1:19.9 | tackling the stigma around HIV and ending transmissions in England by 2030. A report |
| 1:26.2 | published by the Women in Equality's Select Committee last month |
| 1:29.4 | found HIV diagnosis among women who were exposed through sex with men were up 26% compared to |
| 1:36.7 | 2019, whereas for men exposed through sex with men, the figures are down 35%. Claire McDonald's spoke to Ellie Harrison, who was diagnosed HIV positive when she was just 21, and also to public health minister, Ashley Dalton, about the action plan. |
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