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Woman's Hour

Weekend Woman's Hour: Dame Stephanie 'Steve' Shirley, Make-up for Men & the benefits of working with Clay

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2020

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Dame Stephanie Shirley – always known as Steve – tells us about her work revolutionising the workplace and as a major philanthropist.

On Tuesday, Leicester University are launching their 'Student Sex Worker Policy and Toolkit'. We hear from Professor Teela Sanders, a Professor of Criminology at Leicester University who explains why she is leading this initiative and the feminist commentator and journalist Sarah Ditum gives us her view.

Are men beginning to turn to cosmetics to improve their appearance in the same way as women? Danny Gray, who created the WarPaint make-up range for men believes this to be the case and the make-up artist, Lisa Eldridge, author of Face Paint: the History of Make-Up gives her thoughts.

What’s the best way to approach shyness in your child? We hear from Nadia Finer who runs an online programme for shy 7-14 year olds who want to feel braver, and more able to speak up and join in.

Is it time to end the idea that being in a couple is the superior way to live? We hear from Professor Sasha Roseneil the author of a new book, The Tenacity of the Couple-Norm.

And we discuss the therapeutic benefits of clay with Kate Malone, one of the UK’s leading potters and ceramicists – and Charlotte Clarkson, who’s been getting the chance to try out the medium at her local youth centre.

Presenter: Jane Garvey Producer: Rabeka Nurmahomed Editor: Sarah Crawley

Transcript

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0:00.0

Just before this BBC podcast gets underway, here's something you may not know.

0:04.6

My name's Linda Davies and I Commission Podcasts for BBC Sounds.

0:08.4

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0:20.4

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0:29.7

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0:36.0

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0:41.0

Hi good afternoon.

0:42.0

Welcome to the weekend edition of Woman's Hour.

0:45.1

In this week's program, we'll discuss why it's time maybe to end the notion that being

0:49.2

in a couple is the superior way to live. And we'll hear from the formidable Dame

0:54.3

Stephanie Shirley I.T entrepreneur on why she decided to take up the more masculine name

1:01.0

of Steve. I started work at the age of 18 and as soon as I started to make

1:05.9

it clear that I really had ambitions for myself and for other women the more

1:10.7

implacably the men tried to freeze me out. the more

1:15.0

from implacably, the men tried to freeze me out. Dame Steve Shirley, more from her later.

1:17.8

We'll talk about men and cosmetics.

1:20.2

Are they turning increasingly to cosmetics to improve their appearance?

1:24.0

And Shiness, what's the best way to deal with Shiness in your child?

1:29.0

It's really important to emphasise that shy people are not broken. We don't actually need fixing.

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