Weekend Listen: December’s floods weren’t just bad for humans in Washington, a look at how Washington is trying to protect birds, and a former Microsoft executive’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein comes under scrutiny
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KUOW News and Information
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🗓️ 14 February 2026
⏱️ 19 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, it's Terry Gross, host of Fresh Air. |
| 0:02.8 | Hey, take a break from the 24-hour news cycle with us |
| 0:05.6 | and listen to long-form interviews |
| 0:07.6 | with your favorite authors, actors, filmmakers, comedians, and musicians, |
| 0:12.1 | the people making the art that nourishes us and speaks to our times. |
| 0:16.5 | So listen to the Fresh Air podcast from NPR and WHYY. |
| 0:22.6 | Hey, good morning. Patricia Murphy here. It's Saturday. This is Seattle now. Today we're |
| 0:28.7 | bringing you the best from the KUOW Newsroom. First, a look at how December floods have been |
| 0:34.2 | impacting our fish population. Surging floodwaters can be rough on salmon, |
| 0:39.5 | especially when rivers are blocked off from going where they want to go. Biologists and tribes say |
| 0:45.4 | giving rivers more room to Rome can help both salmon and people. John Ryan reports from the mouth |
| 0:51.9 | of the Stillaguamish River north of Seattle. |
| 0:55.0 | Scott Boyd is walking through deep mud at the river's edge. |
| 1:00.0 | This river mouth changed dramatically in October. |
| 1:03.0 | That's when the Stillagwamish tribe removed two miles of earthen levee |
| 1:07.0 | that kept the river and the tides from spreading onto nearby farmland. Well, before it was |
| 1:11.9 | a dairy operation, and now it's a big tidal marsh. Boyd is a still iguamish tribal member and fisheries |
| 1:19.1 | manager. The tribe has about 400 members. Our official reservation is pretty small. I want to say less than |
| 1:25.5 | 100 acres. It wasn't granted to us until maybe 10 years ago. |
| 1:29.6 | Over the past 15 years, the Stillagwamish tribe has purchased a couple thousand acres of land in Snohomish County for fish and wildlife habitat. |
| 1:37.5 | Like other tribes, the Stillagwamish signed a treaty giving up almost all of their land, but they kept their rights to fish and hunt. |
| 1:44.4 | It is a bit of a bitter pill to swallow to buy back the land that we essentially traded for the |
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