Weekend Interviews: William Forbath + Joseph Fishkin, and Guillermo del Toro
The John Fugelsang Podcast
Crossover Media Group
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 10 December 2022
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
In this special episode John interviews filmmaker, author, and actor Guillermo del Toro about his new stop-motion animated musical adaptation of Pinocchio. And then he interviews Professor William Forbath and Professor Joseph Fishkin - authors of the new book: "The Anti-Oligarchy Constitution: Reconstructing the Economic Foundations of American Democracy".
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| 0:00.0 | This is the John Fuell-Seng podcast. |
| 0:07.0 | It's very daunting to do an introduction for you. I have to, you know, from Kronos to Blade 2, |
| 0:17.0 | one of the most underrated films of the last 30 years. |
| 0:20.0 | Blade, what a special movie, what a political movie. movie pan's labyrinth I could talk about |
| 0:24.3 | shape of water nightmare alley and perhaps that resume will prepare you for the |
| 0:29.4 | beauty the terror the cinema of splendor that is Guillero del Toro's Pinocchio, the stop motion animated musical, |
| 0:36.5 | which is directed by Mr. Del Toro and Mark Gustafson, who y'all will love from Fantastic |
| 0:41.2 | Mr. Fox from a screenplay by Mr Del Toro and |
| 0:44.0 | Patrick McHale now there have been many films made of the wooden boy this one |
| 0:48.3 | takes place in 1930s fascist Italy featuring the voices of you and |
| 0:52.2 | McGregor John Teter, our good friend |
| 0:54.4 | Ron Perlman, and Kate Planchet as a monkey. |
| 0:57.4 | It is an animated masterpiece that does not sanitize life's pain, nor does it trivialize life's joys. |
| 1:04.0 | Germil del Toro what a great honor and pleasure to welcome you. |
| 1:07.0 | Thank you so much. |
| 1:09.0 | The film is remarkable and I've read you said that no single character in history has had as deep of a personal connection to me as Pinocchio. |
| 1:17.0 | Yeah, because my mother is part of that. My mother and I saw that, it was my second or third movie with her ever and I felt you know we would |
| 1:27.6 | go in Matt and Mattiness when Disney released the films every seven years from the bolt. |
| 1:33.6 | We saw Pinocchio then and it was a revelation for me because it's the first time I thought, |
| 1:40.1 | that's how scary childhood feels for me. |
| 1:42.3 | Yes. |
| 1:42.9 | You know, and Disney, he's very misunderstood. |
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