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The World and Everything In It

Weekend Conversation: Cut flowers, first principles

The World and Everything In It

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4.86.6K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Os Guinness on cultural power, forgotten first principles, and why renewal begins with letting God be God

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0:00.0

You're listening to a special weekend edition of The World and Everything in It. I'm Nick Einker.

0:09.9

Early in the new documentary Truth Rising, about 15 minutes in, the film returns Oz Guinness

0:15.7

to a small study center in the Swiss Alps that shaped a generation of Christian thinkers more than half a century ago.

0:23.4

It's a brief segment about two minutes, but it frames much of what follows.

0:27.8

It was nearly 60 years ago when I first drove up into the Alps and walked through the doors of LaBrie.

0:35.8

LaBrie was where my faith was deepened and expanded,

0:39.6

where I was mentored by the Christian visionary, Francis Schaefer. It was where I met my beautiful

0:45.6

and beloved wife, Jenny. I spent countless hours in and around these mountains, hiking,

0:53.5

thinking, debating, praying.

0:56.7

And it is here that my faith, my family heritage, and my own sense of calling, all came together.

1:06.0

Our guest this weekend is Oz Guinness, author, social critic, and co-host of Truth Rising,

1:12.6

alongside the Colson Center's John Stone Street.

1:16.0

Oz Guinness was just out of college when he traveled to LeBrie, and for five decades,

1:21.1

he would help Christians to think about culture, freedom, and the future of the West,

1:25.8

writing widely on the ideas that shape public life.

1:29.3

And in this conversation, we do cover quite a lot. The long march of ideas that now shape

1:35.0

the West, today's appetite for strong leaders, the forgetting of first principles and what

1:40.4

he calls our cut-flower civilization. But we begin right about where the documentary does in Switzerland,

1:48.0

those formative years and what they reveal about the challenges of our own moment.

1:53.2

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1:55.6

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2:00.6

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