Week 8 Hangover: Ravens and Texans grind out critical wins; Bucs take firm control of the NFC South
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🗓️ 28 October 2025
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
It's safe to say that the first half of the 2025 season hasn't gone exactly as the Ravens or Texans drew it up. Yet after big wins for both teams in Week 8, they remain firmly in the mix as we turn toward November. The Buccaneers, meanwhile, are putting real distance between themselves and the rest of the NFC South, despite all their injuries. Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen dig into Bears-Ravens, 49ers-Texans and Saints-Buccaneers on this episode of The Athletic Football Show. They also do what they can to console sad Steelers and Vikings fans in the latest edition of Monday Mourning.
Rundown (timestamps are approximate)
3:50 Ravens take down Bears without Lamar Jackson
34:51 Texans offense comes to life in win over 49ers
53:11 Saints bench Spencer Rattler in loss to Buccaneers
1:03:30 Monday Mourning: Why should Steelers fans even care?
Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Athletic Football Show. |
| 0:04.9 | It's the week eight hangover today, hitting three games with Derek Klesson, started with |
| 0:10.3 | the Bears and the Ravens. |
| 0:12.1 | Spent a lot of time on this one, which I guess shouldn't be surprising. |
| 0:15.1 | Dug into the state of the Bears' offense, what we're seeing from Caleb Williams right |
| 0:18.6 | now, really sat in that discussion for quite a while. Also chatted about the performance from the Texans offense, what we're seeing from Caleb Williams right now. I really sat in that discussion for quite a while. |
| 0:21.9 | Also chatted about the performance from the Texans offense, who had their best day in a very long time against the Niners yesterday, and then dug into Saints Bucks with a pretty heavy focus on the Saints quarterback decision, how they arrive there, what it really means, and what we might expect from Tyler Shuck here |
| 0:38.2 | over the rest of the season. |
| 0:39.6 | Let's get to it with Derek right now. |
| 0:45.9 | It's the week eight hangover on the athletic football show like we always do on these Monday shows. |
| 0:51.6 | We're going to break it down three games that we did not get to on the recap show last night. Plus, taking a couple of your phone calls. We've got a lot of fun stuff to dig into today. Like, even in a game that would typically be a throwaway game, we had a quarterback change that we'll have to chew on a little bit for New Orleans. And then obviously, I don't think we've ever done a Bears game in one of these. And like the multiple years I've done the hangover. So that's going to be a fun experience. We're about to dig into here. And then the Texans had a big day on offense a week after they were not functional on that side of the ball. And so I feel like there's some meaty topics on this version of the hangover. There are. I was actually, I'm really excited. Like just digging into this batch of games is maybe the most fun I've had with all of them. Because yeah, even Buck Saints, which one should be the throwaway theoretically of this group, but also we've done the Saints a million times. Even this Saints game is technically more interesting than a number of the other ones we've talked about. So I'm pretty good on this bunch. Are we starting or ending with your Bears therapy session? I think we have to start with it. I think it would be disingenuous and cowardly for us to start anywhere else. I think this is the first game that we have to dig into. So let's start. Where do you want to begin with the discussion about this bears ravens game |
| 2:00.9 | i mean i'm more embarrassed by the defense doing letting tyler huntley do that to them so like |
| 2:07.3 | do we want to start there that i mean we can't start there what what a ridiculous place to start |
| 2:13.3 | considering the amount of caliph Williams discourse it's currently happening if you want to circle |
| 2:17.4 | back to the caleb conversation at the end of this, that's acceptable. |
| 2:20.6 | Yes, we will. |
| 2:21.5 | That's the thing is I want to get what is probably an easier thing to talk about kind of out of the way. |
| 2:25.8 | So I think we can have a more full discussion about Caleb and not feel like anything else is hanging over us. |
| 2:30.6 | The defense for here's the thing. |
| 2:34.6 | The secondary looking bad, of course they looked bad. |
| 2:37.5 | They didn't have anybody playing. |
| 2:38.9 | Like this was all of their backup guys, especially at corner. |
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