Week 12 Hangover: The Seahawks and Patriots escape with road wins, Cam Ward is good, and JSN is a one-of-one player
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🗓️ 25 November 2025
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Summary
Every contender needs to win a game or two on the road when they aren't necessarily at their best. That goes doubly so for surprise contenders like, say, the Seahawks and Patriots. That's exactly what they both did in wins over the Titans and Bengals, respectively. Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen dive into those games on this episode of The Athletic Football Show. Included: plenty of love for Cam Ward and Jaxon Smith-Njigba. After that, the guys do what they can to console sad Vikings and Buccaneers fans.
Rundown (timestamps are approximate_
3:33 Seahawks with enough to get past Titans
31:11 Patriots get out of Cincinnati with a win
51:38 Monday Mourning with the Buccaneers and Vikings
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Athletic Football Show. I'm Robert Mays. It's the week 12 hangover today. Derek and I hit two games on this show. We did pretty deep dives on Titans, Seahawks, and Bengals Patriots. A lot of Cam Ward discussion, just what we're getting from Cam Ward, what that means |
| 0:21.5 | potentially for the future of Cam Ward. |
| 0:23.5 | I think both of us were just, again, impressed by what he did against arguably the best |
| 0:27.1 | defense in the league on Sunday. |
| 0:28.8 | We also chatted about JSN, just the season that he's having, what makes him such a special |
| 0:33.5 | player, maybe some of the concerns that are still remaining about the volatility of the |
| 0:38.5 | Seahawks offense when it comes to putting the ball in harm's way, things like that. But really |
| 0:42.9 | enjoyed the conversation about that game. Also dove into Bengals, Patriots, and just another |
| 0:47.9 | impressive game from Drake May for most of that game, despite some hiccups early. |
| 0:52.8 | Just digging into some of the limitations we feel like the Patriots still have. |
| 0:56.5 | I think that those were on display yesterday against the Bengals team that they probably |
| 1:00.5 | should have handled a little bit easier than they did, but really enjoy diving into |
| 1:04.7 | both of these games with Derek. |
| 1:05.9 | And then we had two calls on Monday morning and just really digging into the existential |
| 1:09.9 | dread around what is currently |
| 1:11.9 | happening with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Minnesota Vikings, two really good calls |
| 1:15.9 | that I had a lot of fun with. So let's get to all of that with me and Derek right now. |
| 1:27.1 | We got two games today on the week 12 hangover. |
| 1:31.1 | We had a bunch of them in ways both big and small last night. |
| 1:34.5 | The only ones we really didn't touch down at any sort of length for the Patriots |
| 1:38.0 | Bengals game and the Seahawks Titans game. |
| 1:40.4 | So those are the two that we're digging into today. |
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