Hi, it's Michael. This week, the Daily Is Me Visiting are favorite episodes of the year,

listening back, and then hearing what's happened in the time since the story's first ran.

Today, we're going back to a conversation that first ran this summer, two weeks after a

white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia turned violent, and right after President Trump

drew intense criticism by saying there were, quote, some very fine people on both sides.

From The New York Times, I'm Michael Barbar. This is The Daily.

Today, Derek Black left the white nationalist movement. He was poised to help me,

betraying his family and friends in the process. After leaving, he came to see it as a fringe movie,

on the margins, and reprehensible to most Americans, which is why he has been shocked

by the events of the past couple of years. It's Tuesday, August 20th.

Yeah, I was born into one of the most prominent white nationalist families in the country.

Wow.

My godfather, for Black, of any other words, David Duke, who was married to my mother when

before I was born, and then my father started the largest white nationalist website,

Stormfri, the first white nationalist website on the internet, and it has been the largest one

ever since. So I grew up with the leadership of the white nationalist movement all coming over

to the house, and when I got older, we'd go to conferences, and it was my life.

Derek Black grew up in West Palm Beach, Florida, across the water from the President's Mar-a-Lago

mansion, and he used to drive past it almost every day in a red pickup truck with a confederate

flag sticker on the back window. His father is Don Black, once a grand wizard of the KKK.

Sounds like what you're describing is that you're kind of the first child of American

white nationalism.

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