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All right, we're making today's Wednesday, January 11th.

Welcome to the dog walk presented by Barstool Sports.

Today I'm joined by Kevin Ganon and Anthony Duarte, former NYPD detectives, and the founders

by some would know of the Smiley Face Killer theory.

Kevin, we're going before this, founder of the theory, interesting how we got there.

Is that safe to say, is that fair to say, 1997, started at the beginning, how do we get

here, let's start from there, 1997.

Okay, 1997, I was a detective soldier in the missing person squad for the NYPD, and February

16th of 97.

Two days after I got into the missing person squad, I used to be, I used to run a robbery

unit in the 4-2 priest and I got transferred and I basically promoted into the missing

person's division of the detective bureau, and Pat McNeill went missing from Fordham University.

21 year old student, and Manhattan, a 90 year secretary from a boy called a Dapadog.

Obviously, the investigation ensued, and like three months later, he was recovered at

Alset Pier in Brooklyn.

And from what I saw, from everything that I did from the investigation, and from speaking

to the NYPD Harbor unit, a body would not have gone from Manhattan into Brooklyn.

But Alset Pier, anyway, with the water current, so the only way he could have gotten there,

would have been the fear had been driven to the location and placed into the water there.

So that was what I was looking at.

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