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Long Shadow

Weapons of Mass Distraction

Long Shadow

Long Lead & PRX

Technology, Politics, Guns, Internet, Anniversary, 9-11, Terrorism, America, Narrative, History

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

North Korea hacks a movie studio over a screwball comedy, inspiring America’s enemies to launch cyberattacks against the U.S. To roil an election, one even unleashes a network of trolls pitting ordinary Americans against each other, online and in the streets.

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0:08.5

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0:12.9

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0:23.6

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0:38.2

Just a heads up that this episode contains harsh language, so take care when listening.

0:48.4

On June 11, 2014, Sony Pictures dropped a teaser trailer for an upcoming movie. Kim Jong-un's people believe anything he tells them, including that he can speak to dolphins.

1:00.0

The movie was called The Interview. The premise was ridiculous.

1:04.0

Two hapless TV journalists, played by Seth Rogan and James Franco,

1:09.0

But he does talk to dolphins.

1:14.7

We're hired by the CIA to kill the leader of North Korea.

1:16.9

Want to go kill Kim Jong-un?

1:17.3

Totally.

1:18.9

I'd love to say, Nick Chong-un, it's a date.

1:27.3

We put out a trailer for the movie sometime in early June of that year.

1:28.3

And we received a very cryptic email from the North Korean envoy in New York.

1:36.3

Michael Linton was the head of Sony Pictures Entertainment when the threatening email

1:40.3

about the interview landed in his inbox.

1:42.3

We couldn't even tell whether it was real or fake.

1:46.0

It's sort of intimated that the authorities in North Korea really didn't want this movie to be coming out.

1:53.0

It turned out that the email was real, and North Korea quickly followed it up with threats.

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