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🗓️ 22 July 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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North Korea hacks a movie studio over a screwball comedy, inspiring America’s enemies to launch cyberattacks against the U.S. To roil an election, one even unleashes a network of trolls pitting ordinary Americans against each other, online and in the streets.
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0:48.4 | On June 11, 2014, Sony Pictures dropped a teaser trailer for an upcoming movie. Kim Jong-un's people believe anything he tells them, including that he can speak to dolphins. |
1:00.0 | The movie was called The Interview. The premise was ridiculous. |
1:04.0 | Two hapless TV journalists, played by Seth Rogan and James Franco, |
1:09.0 | But he does talk to dolphins. |
1:14.7 | We're hired by the CIA to kill the leader of North Korea. |
1:16.9 | Want to go kill Kim Jong-un? |
1:17.3 | Totally. |
1:18.9 | I'd love to say, Nick Chong-un, it's a date. |
1:27.3 | We put out a trailer for the movie sometime in early June of that year. |
1:28.3 | And we received a very cryptic email from the North Korean envoy in New York. |
1:36.3 | Michael Linton was the head of Sony Pictures Entertainment when the threatening email |
1:40.3 | about the interview landed in his inbox. |
1:42.3 | We couldn't even tell whether it was real or fake. |
1:46.0 | It's sort of intimated that the authorities in North Korea really didn't want this movie to be coming out. |
1:53.0 | It turned out that the email was real, and North Korea quickly followed it up with threats. |
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