The mom secrets is not all about this is one of the many topics, but the idea is that it's talking about things that people don't talk about that make you think.

And we have learned that we just no longer feel the need to hold back.

Drop like a hat. Drop like a hat. Drop like a hat.

Natalie, what do I do?

Open, get it, get it.

Good morning. Good afternoon and good evening wherever you are, wherever you play, wherever you stay, you're here with us right now for these next hour.

35 minutes. Let's call 38 minutes. I call this a 38 minute podcast.

This podcast is actually going to be directed and speaking a little bit, although we never stay on track about our new book release, which is called Mom Secrets that is coming out March 22nd, but it's out for pre order right now with this book took us a long time to write not because we didn't have a lot to write, but to get it out in the right way.

We had to be thoughtful. And then we read the book and then we then it was fine and then a year later we released the book and then we realized, oh shit, we might have said things in here that might get us a divorce, but that's okay because literally like when we do not when we wrote the book, it's kind, we did this one along the lines of like the two of us just talking like there are anonymous confessions from you guys.

And then the two of us have just sort of like expanded on the topic or on the conversation and literally no filter just sort of spewing whatever came out and our thoughts on things that the two of us talk about all the time.

I mean, there's no surprise when you read this book and the words and the and the whole the whole what's the word when it's almost like the tone, the tone is so us, but at the same time, you know, that comes with some private information,

yeah, that a lot of people haven't seen or heard before my I had a friend go she's like congratulations the book. I hope I hope you didn't say anything about me in the book of my brother goes, did you say anything weird about me in the book? And I'm like, oh my God, hold on.

I don't even know like I didn't think about who I was referring to.

Why did we talk about weird things and why are they asking that question?

Well, that's a good question, Catherine. I don't know why they're asking this podcast or did they see on the post because my mother-in-law was like congratulations on the book.

Because I wrote if you know us don't read this.

If you know us don't read this, that must be why they said it. So my mother-in-law goes, I'll buy the book to support the book, but then I'll just leave it on the

comment table because you told me not to read it. Okay, I'll say this. The book, okay, I really I'm coming to a place of understanding us, okay, after nine years, okay. That the book is a lot of people think these things, okay.

A lot of people go through life thinking these conversations, but God forbid you open your mouth and you have them. Okay, for example marriage, like God forbid you question the

sanction of marriage when you're married, not because you want a divorce. And I literally say that in book, not because I want a divorce, just like you get to a place where you're like, you just think about it.

I'm not religious. What is the point of other than like partnership I'm totally down for, okay. Like I need him in my life. Like I'm so glad he's in my life.

Like I don't want to change it. Yeah, I'm just saying if we change the way we talked about marriage, would people have less than a 50% divorce rate where it would not be such this taboo or would people not be in in unhappy marriages because for the sake of marriage.

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