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Goodfellows to see what you're missing. Thanks. Now let's set the record straight. There's no

argument over the choice between peace and war, but there's only one guaranteed

way you can have peace and you can have it in the next second.

Surrender.

Admittedly, there's a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson of

history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement. And this is the specter our

well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face, that their policy of accommodation is appeasement.

And it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight or surrender.

It's Tuesday, August 6th, 2024, and welcome back to Goodfellows, a Hoover Institution broadcast examining social, economic, political, and geopolitical concerns.

I'm Bill Whalen.

I'm a Hoover Distinguished Policy Fellow.

I'll be your moderator today.

Joined by two of the three stars of our show. Our good fellows is elected call them.

In the House today, we have the economist John Cochran and former

presidential national security advisor, H.R. McMaster,

they're both Hoover Senior Fellows.

Not joining us today, we think he's somewhere on the high seas,

maybe he's sea shanties or HMS Pinafore.

Is the historian Neil Ferguson, but we'll have Neil back on our next show in

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