Now, the number of people who are satisfied with the government's record, according to the

polling, is about one in ten, which just so you know is about the same as the number who

think the moon landings were faked. The most unpopular government in recorded history, after 15

months, that is pretty impressive. Now, they've obviously decided that the way out of this is to

press a big red shiny button,

which is labelled, let's make everyone angry at people fleeing violence and persecution.

That's Shabana McMuda, Home Secretary, and the government's agenda.

Now, I really delighted to join by Zach Polanski, who is the still pretty new leader of the Green Party

of England, Wales, but obviously is everywhere, not least because the Greens are surging in the polls.

They've got the best ever polling. In some polls, they're head of the Labour pie. And, you know,

bear in mind they came second behind Labour in 39 seats when they got about

a third of the vote of what they're currently polling in many polls.

So Labor should be worried, but they're not acting like it because they're acting like

that is only reform that they're bothered about.

I want to start with that, actually, Zach.

Hello, by the way.

Good to see you.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah, do you think it's interesting that the Green Party are surging?

I mean, I know you've got over 150,000 members and I'll say, clips the Conservatives.

And according to the Yugove poll, about half of 18 to 24 yards back to Greens,

reform of 5% amongst that age group.

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