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The Intercept Briefing

“We Will Find You and We Will Kill You”

The Intercept Briefing

The Intercept

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Show description:

In 16 pages, the Trump administration’s new official counterterrorism strategy outlines in broad terms who it views as terrorist threats and priority targets, ranging from anti-fascist activists to ISIS and so-called narco-terrorists. The line “We will find you, and we will kill you” appears in the memo.

“[The] strategy brings together Trump's war on the wider world, which stretches from interventions and wars in Yemen and Somalia to Venezuela and the Caribbean Sea,” says Intercept senior reporter Nick Turse. “It combines it with the administration's war on dissent at home which has also been lethal, as we saw on the streets of Minneapolis. ... We can consider this strategy a new declaration of war by the Trump administration on its enemies both foreign and domestic, both real and imagined.”

This week on The Intercept Briefing, host Jessica Washington and colleagues Turse and Noah Hurowitz, who covers federal law enforcement, dissect how the Trump administration is painting anyone it wants to go after — state and non-state actors — as terrorists. “Fundamentally, this document is a list of the administration's enemies and a promise of what they're going to do to them,” says Hurowitz. “This anti-terror imperative makes for a very flexible and useful means of tamping down on dissent.”

“We're not just talking about rhetoric here,” says Washington. “We've seen the administration actually use these terms in action when it comes to the boat strikes in the Caribbean and Pacific that killed nearly 200 people as of early May.” 

“The actual legal justification for the strikes is, like so much else, secret,” says Turse, who has been covering the attacks on so-called narco-terrorists. “We're talking about a fake war in which the enemies aren't even read into the fact that they're in an armed conflict with the United States.” He adds, “It's really built on a quarter-century of executive overreach and targeted killings around the world. It's the price of Congress allowing Presidents Bush, Obama, Biden, and Trump to hunt and kill people by drone from Afghanistan and Pakistan to Yemen and Somalia. It took this legally dubious, at best, post-9/11 drone war and laid the groundwork for a completely illegal one in the Caribbean and the Pacific Ocean.”

“Say what you will about the people around President Trump,” Hurowitz notes, “but they have proved very adept at finding levers of power and levers of pain to go after their enemies.”

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0:00.0

Hey Intercept Briefing listeners, we have a special live taping coming up Tuesday, May 19th at 5 p.m. Eastern, 2 p.m. Pacific.

0:07.7

We're going to talk about what's happening in Gaza, where the ceasefire stands, and much more with Intercept journalist Jonah Valdez and Tarek, Keni Shawa, a policy analyst dedicated to Palestinian liberation.

0:19.1

We will put an RSVP link in the show notes of our most

0:21.7

recent episode. We hope you can join us. Now on with the show. Welcome to the Intercept briefing.

0:32.1

I'm Jessica Washington, politics reporter at The Intercept. And I'm Maya Hibbitt, managing editor at The Intercept.

0:38.4

So last week we talked about the Supreme Court's gutting of the Voting Rights Act,

0:42.7

and the news on that subject has been moving really fast.

0:46.2

So I was wondering if first you could just give us a quick update on what else is happening

0:50.0

since that last conversation.

0:52.6

Yeah, there's been a lot happening since the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act last month. Yeah, there's been a lot happening

0:54.5

since the Supreme Court

0:55.6

gutted the Voting Rights Act last month.

0:57.7

Well, gutted it again further, I should say.

1:00.7

So in Tennessee,

1:01.8

Governor Bill Lee signed into law a new congressional map,

1:04.7

eliminating the only majority black district.

1:07.4

And then in Alabama, House primaries are next week,

1:10.2

but the Republican governor is planning to hold a special vote in four districts in August after the state redraws a more GOP-friendly map.

1:18.2

Republican leaders like Speaker Mike Johnson are excited about it. Here he is talking about it on Fox and Friends.

1:24.0

There's Tennessee, Alabama. I mean, how many more? Well, potentially South Carolina, Maine, Missouri, Mississippi.

1:29.3

There are other states who are similarly situated.

1:32.3

And we think the analysis is, by the end of all this, when you correct all that,

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