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Scratch & Win

We Were Wrong

Scratch & Win

GBH News

History

51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Part 1: There is a strange irony behind the Big Dig: the most expensive highway project ever built in America began with a man who hated highways. This is the story of Fred Salvucci’s journey into activism, during what is perhaps the most transformative anti-highway movement in the nation’s history.

Credits:

Host and scriptwriter: Ian Coss

Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

Editor: Lacy Roberts

Editorial Advisor: Stephanie Leydon

Fact Checker: Lisa Wardle

Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

Project Manager: Meiqian He

Transcript

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0:00.0

Support for the Big Dig comes from MIT Federal Credit Union, helping members navigate their

0:05.2

earning options with high-yield savings accounts. Membership information at MITFCU.org, federally

0:12.1

insured by NCUA. There are many strange and bitter ironies in the story of the Big Dig,

0:19.4

but here's what has to be my favorite. It's the most expensive

0:24.4

highway project ever built in America, and yet the architect, the man who started it all, hated

0:32.1

highways. My grandmother lived near here on Lincoln Street. A man named Fred Salvucci.

0:39.0

And I had to engage in ethnic stereotypes.

0:42.3

She was this Italian lady that grew terrific tomatoes

0:45.0

and sold them to the Polish people next door,

0:48.2

as if only Italians know how to grow tomatoes.

0:50.8

But she grew everything there.

0:52.6

Tomatoes, potatoes, beans, basil, garlic.

0:56.7

It was an incredibly big garden.

0:58.9

And she lost all that.

1:00.3

Yeah, she lost all that.

1:03.3

The Massachusetts turnpike stretches across the state like a life-giving artery.

1:08.2

123 miles.

1:09.4

Back in the 1950s, when Fred Salvoci was a teenager,

1:13.8

the state of Massachusetts was on a highway building spree,

1:17.9

east to west, north to south,

1:19.9

and all around the city of Boston.

1:22.6

The greatest of these new roads was the mass turnpike.

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