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Life Changing

We were paraded through the streets and spat at

Life Changing

BBC

Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.6735 Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

In his twenties Jon Godsall was working in the family air-conditioning business but he also wanted to see the world, so he took his skills abroad. He found a job at the British embassy in Kuwait.

On August 2, 1990, Jon set off in his car for work as he did every day. He realised something was wrong when he was stopped as he neared the embassy. The next thing he knew, he was on the floor with a gun pointing towards him.

What happened next transformed his life. For thirty years, Jon found himself unable to speak about that time. Then in lockdown, this year, something changed and the process of opening up and sharing his experience had a remarkable impact on him.

This is the first time Jon has told his story in public and some of what you will hear is upsetting.

Details of organisations offering information and support with mental health are available at bbc.co.uk/actionline.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Greg Jenner. I'm the host of Your Dead to Me, where the best names in comedy and history

0:05.5

join me to learn about and laugh at the past. You are a traitor. And in the new series, we'll meet

0:11.2

Aristotle. I think he might have been a time traveller. Someone who's like almost a glitch.

0:15.3

We'll dive into the causes of the British Civil Wars in the 1600s. In England at this period,

0:19.8

there's people can't get on the housing ladder.

0:21.5

This sounds familiar. And we'll discover the arts and crafts movement. I love the clothes. I love

0:26.5

the vibe. Yes, we're a comedy show that takes history seriously and then laughs at it. You're dead to me.

0:31.3

Listen first on BBC Sounds. BBC Sounds, music, Radio, podcasts.

0:45.5

Hi there, this is Jane Garvey and this is life-changing, conversations with ordinary people who've had quite extraordinary experiences.

0:53.0

And our guest is John Godsell, who grew up in Mount Pleasant in Swansea, part of a big family of air conditioning engineers.

0:56.8

This is the first time John has told his story in public.

1:00.7

It's about his experiences in Iraq in the early 1990s.

1:05.1

It isn't easy for him and some of what you're about to hear is upsetting.

1:11.0

I'm interested, John, in your family nickname, which is a good one.

1:12.3

This is lamb chop.

1:14.0

Now, how did that come about?

1:16.3

I don't know, to be honest. I know who would come from, obviously, my siblings, myself and my twin sister.

1:21.7

We are the second youngest out of 11, 11 children.

1:25.7

But I was always regarded as my mother's little blue-eyed boy, and I think it was my siblings that made up the name lamb chop, if you like. I think it's purely jealousy, of course.

1:34.9

Of course, yes, okay. Can't say I blame them, really, because sibling rivalry is a very real thing.

1:40.3

It is. So a big family and a happy childhood? It's a lovely part of the world to grow up.

1:46.2

Absolutely. I couldn't complain about my child. Well, I could, but not about the happiness that was provided.

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