Hey everybody it's Joe Trippy and welcome back to that Trippy show this week. I'm really

excited about our guests today we to that

the trippy show this week I'm really excited about our guests.

Today we welcome my friend Joe Klein.

And I gotta tell you, he is, in my view,

I've been doing this for like 40 years now and one of the best journalists and

and really insightful writers that I met along the way and really consider him a great friend.

And I saw him make some great points on MS NBC recently and thought it'd be great to have him on.

Joe's got a substat called Sanity Clause, where he's writing some really really insightful stuff you

should run not walk we'll keep we'll put it in the show notes but you should

binge read what what Joe's been writing it

it's really some amazing stuff everything from how to take on Trump the end shows of

Ted Lasso and succession took Robert Kennedy Jr. and indulgence of his

campaign. Really important stuff. Joe, welcome to the show. It's great to have

you on my friend. It's great to have you on my friend.

It's great to be here. I just don't think I have anything very interesting to say today.

So, I'm joking, I'm joking. I'm joking. I always...

Don't say that. I don't want to get you worried Joe I know your

your own career Alex where do you want to start Joe I I'm gonna embarrass you a little bit first so when we do our pre-show stuff

Joe will maybe send me a couple sentences here and there or we'll do a call and

say hey you got to check this out I have nine emails from Joe about stuff you have written or said that he was excited to talk.

Like he has never put that much in into any podcast. He is that excited and I don't think he wants me saying that but like he's he keeps bringing it up so I too have been binge reading your stuff both on a kind of drip by drip basis and then I woke up this morning to eight emails from Joe Trippy saying read this read this

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