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How are you? Three minutes after 10 is the time you're listening to James O'Brien on LBC, where we are about to make

radio history by opening a conversation about the, where we are about to make radio history

by opening a conversation about the, I suppose we have to say, the latest defeat for Western

forces in Afghanistan with a quote from Mike and the mechanics. That is the side project, as you

well know, of the Genesis guitarist Mike Rutherford. And if you were listening to the classic album,

The Living Years,

many, many more years ago, in fact that I cared to remember,

not to be in the region of 30 or so,

then you may remember a line from the classic track,

Seeing is Believing, which went something like this.

Don't worry, I'm not going to sing it, and I'm not going to play it either.

Can't afford the royalties.

It's something like this. I believe in the magic of the Mujahideen.

I just think about that for a minute.

This was a mainstream, middle of the road, rock outfit.

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