Hey guys, it's Gil here. I just wanted to jump in before the episode and let you know that we're going to be talking about the Epstein Files today.

As you know, talking about the Epstein files means we're going to be touching on themes of child sexual abuse.

If that's particularly sensitive for you, you might want to skip this episode.

I'm going to put some resources in the show notes for you.

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Yeah. and Chans. Hello and welcome to Shameless, the pop culture podcast for smart people who love dumb stuff.

You're joined, as always, by me, Michelle Andrews, and you're Zara McDonald.

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You're joined as always by Melbourne writers. Michelle Andrews, and you, Zara McDonald. I just fucked up. What's that? You're joined, as always, by Melbourne writers. Michelle Andrews, that would be me and Zara McDonald, that would be you. Okay, before I get to hello producer, Ilish Gilligan, which, by the way, hello. I think that could be our new intro line because people often ask us why we call ourselves writers when we barely write. So true. We

never write. I disagree with that. I think you are writers and I think you need to keep that up.

Perhaps it gives us gravitas. Yeah. I haven't written the column about a year. You've written two books,

haven't you? In my lifetime, yes. Yeah. We half wrote them so we've written one inch. And one of

them barely wrote. We edited. We don't talk about books. Okay, so you're meant to do it coming up on today's show. So I'll go. Coming up, well, you wanted to complain about our, how would you like to be described? I loved what you did. Zara McDonald, Melbourne night. Yeah, yeah. Melbourne night. Welcome to our podcast by podcasters.

Yeah.

Don Michelle Ames.

Anyway, coming up on today's show, we are deeping the Epstein file drop when it comes to

celebrities and public figures who is mentioned and what the hell does it all mean?

We're going to go from Melinda Gates and Bill Gates all the way to the Princess of

Norway to Lady Gaga. All of these mentions mean very, very different things and we're going

to explore it with you guys. Yeah, I think that's really important from the top, not all

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