She said she wanted to kill Kay.

That is prosecutor, Georgia Kaplanman, her words under oath in a closed door meeting.

And you haven't even heard a word yet about the Mexican cartel and what Donna had upper sleeve when it came to her own son, Rob Aedles.

Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor, where we bring you the best

guests in all of true crime. Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel

Walton.

That's up, SCS Nation. Welcome to Surviving the Survivor. This is the global phenomenon bringing you the very best guests in all of true crime.

Today, we are cracking open something filed under seal.

So why was it unsealed for a minute?

We'll ask our guests in a second, but it was a closed door hearing, otherwise known in legal circles as an in-camera

meeting. And it had to do with some alleged threats that Donna made against Katie McBanawa,

the so-called middle woman in the Dan Markell murder for hire plot for those who have been

living under Iraq.

This goes all the way back to July 18th of 2014 when up and coming rising legal scholar Dan Markell is shot twice in the face succumbing to his injuries the very next day and just an absolutely brutal case and the recovery for the families

still underway all these years later. Without further ado, let me bring in the best guests here,

starting off with the fame, Tallahassee, criminal defense attorney, the letter R-O-U-R, Timothy Jansen.

Here he is.

We will sandwich in the one and only woman on the show tonight.

The Brains this evening.

Monica Jordan, the nation's premier private investigator.

She has worked 50 death penalty cases in her illustrious career.

How many more can there be?

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