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Yeah, so what does Mike Mooney have today?

So I've got some updates from a year ago when we talked about Hold Fast the podcast and

and Mike Lacey and Backpage.com.

Do you want to give the quick elevator pitch on the podcast real quick? Because it's fantastic.

Thank you. Okay. So the pretty short version is there was a chain of all weekly newspapers called New Times and later Village Voice Media. And then eventually it was called Voice Media group, I think, something like that.

But they owned all weeklies all around the country, these kind of free, big newspapers that you'd find in bars and coffee shops.

Was the Observer one of these?

Dallas Observer was one of these.

I worked at Miami New Times.

The Village Voice in New York was one.

LA Weekly was one.

Seattle Weekly.

Phoenix New Times.

And they would just cover local news really aggressively.

Profiles of celebrities, stories about corrupt politicians, big developments,

kind of beholden to nobody, right?

Like just the anti-corporate media because so much of the money in this company came from advertising. And they had had regular advertisements like restaurants, but they also had

personal ads in the back, classified ads that were adult classifieds, often sex workers.

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