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We Can Do Hard Things

We’re Taking Patriotism Back with Heather Cox Richardson

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.841.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

424. We’re Taking Patriotism Back with Heather Cox Richardson Historian, writer, and truth-teller Heather Cox Richardson joins us to expose how patriotism has been hijacked by those undermining democracy, equality, and truth—and to show us how to reclaim it as a force for justice, unity, and hope. -Debunking the myth of rugged individualism—and revealing why community has always been our greatest strength-How the far Right hijacked patriotism, demonized equality, and rebranded justice as socialism-The $50 trillion heist: How the top 1% looted the wealth of 90% of Americans—and got away with it Find Heather Cox Richardson’s Substack at https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/. Heather Cox Richardson is a professor of history at Boston College and an expert on American political and economic history. She is the author of seven books, including the award-winning How the South Won the Civil War and her latest, the New York Times bestseller Democracy Awakening. Her work has appeared in The Washington Post, The New York Times, and The Guardian, among other outlets. Her widely read newsletter, Letters from an American, synthesizes history and modern political issues. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to We can do hard things. Today, we are doing a very hard thing and a very timely thing and a very important thing in this American moment, which is we are taking back patriotism.

0:22.7

Patriotism as a concept from the people who have lost their privileges to call themselves

0:27.8

patriots. They have lost their privileges. Okay? We are the fucking patriots now. And we are going to

0:34.5

tell you why. Heather Cox Richardson is a professor of history at Boston College

0:39.4

and an expert on American political and economic history. She is the author of seven books,

0:44.7

including the award-winning How the South Won the Civil War and her latest, the New York Times bestseller Democracy Awakening.

0:51.8

Her work has appeared in The Washington Post, the New York Times, and the Guardian,

0:55.9

among other outlets. Her widely read newsletter, which Pod Squad, if you don't know about letters

1:01.3

from an American, please know that tons of us every single morning are reading Heather Cox Richardson's

1:08.9

letter that she writes every single morning about the state of our

1:11.9

country, how to understand it, and what the hell we should do next. You should just register for that thing.

1:18.5

And you can also listen to it. If you don't want to read it, you can listen to it, which is what I do

1:23.4

on podcasts. We'll link to all this. She reads the letter each day.

1:28.8

Listen to this episode in which we ask Heather Cox Richardson,

1:34.1

the democracy defender, Heather Cox Richardson,

1:37.0

that millions of people are listening to every morning

1:39.2

to understand what the hell is going on in this country

1:41.2

and what to do about it, where we ask her the question I've

1:44.5

been wanting to ask someone for a very long time, which is this. And I don't mean to put too

1:49.3

find a point on it or to be too nuanced so that we don't understand. But my question is,

1:55.0

what in the most strenuous terms. The fuck.

2:03.8

What the fuck?

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