We're Still Here with Simon and Julie
The John Fugelsang Podcast
Crossover Media Group
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 4 October 2025
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
Simon and Julie chat with John about Pete Hegseth’s decision—as Trump’s new Secretary of War—to let U.S. soldiers keep their Medals of Honor from the 1890 Wounded Knee Massacre, calling it “final". The move has outraged many people and Native communities.
They also honored Orange Shirt Day (Sept 30)—a National Day of Remembrance for children lost to residential schools and the survivors who carry their stories. To find out more check out Julie’s Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/juliefrancella/p/orange-shirt-day?r=1u83jb&utm_medium=ios
Next, they reflect on Dr. Jane Goodall’s partnerships with Indigenous communities and her call to make decisions with “seven generations ahead” in mind. They also take listener calls and share updates on new Native-led bills in California.
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| 0:00.0 | Your first great love story is free when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at audible.co. |
| 0:05.5 | That's audible.co.uk slash wondery. |
| 0:14.7 | I am so thrilled to welcome Simon, Moia Smith and Julie Franchella back to our program. |
| 0:24.2 | Simon is an Oglala Lakota and Chicano journalist. |
| 0:27.0 | He is a contributing writer at NBC News and The Nation.com. |
| 0:30.2 | Simon's the author of the forthcoming book, Your Spirit Animal is a jackass. |
| 0:33.2 | He's an adjunct professor of indigenous studies at the University of Colorado, Denver. |
| 0:36.6 | It is so good to see you again, sir. |
| 0:38.0 | Welcome back. |
| 0:39.4 | Love to be here, man. Thank you, man. Julie Franchella is a mental health professional with over 30 years of experience in handling complex trauma with indigenous youth and families. Julie is an enrolled member of the Ejipway of Batchewana First Nation Reserve. She teaches indigenous studies at Durham College, |
| 0:54.5 | focusing on the impacts of colonization on First Nations people, Ms. Franchella. I am so happy to see |
| 1:00.3 | you again. Welcome back. Thank you so much. And as we move into October and get ready for the |
| 1:06.5 | harvest moon, which actually is rising on the 6th of October, it's a super moon. I've been thinking about how this time of |
| 1:13.4 | year was always sacred to our ancestors, and it really is a time of reflection and honoring what's |
| 1:19.6 | been lost and what still nourishes us. And so I'm happy to be here with you and Simon and Chris and Thea |
| 1:26.8 | to talk about these things. So thank you for having us. |
| 1:30.5 | Well, let's start off with something that's going to get, hopefully get Simon Moyes Smith leaving human remains scattered around the room over Pete Hagseth. |
| 1:40.5 | Pete Hagseth, this guy who looks like a melted G.I. Joe doll, this Fox News weekend prompter monkey, the only war this guy ever won was over teleprompter font size, this hump. This guy, as you know, invited 800 generals from four continents to come here and be props this week. But to my mind, that little pageant, that little TED Talk for |
| 2:03.2 | fascism he held in Quantico, which looked like a fucking, I mean, a launch drive for fascism |
| 2:09.6 | sponsored by Viagra and Monster Energy Drink. It was embarrassing. And to me, it was the second |
| 2:13.8 | worst thing I saw him do all week. Because as you guys know better than anyone, and as you've talked with our listeners on this show, |
| 2:22.0 | the Wounded Knee Massacre of 1890 is one of the most disgusting chapters of this country's history. |
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