We're Still Here with Simon and Julie
The John Fugelsang Podcast
Crossover Media Group
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 28 February 2026
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
John talks with Simon Moya-Smith who's an Oglala Lakota and Chicano journalist. He’s a contributing writer at NBC News and TheNation.com. He’s the author of the forthcoming book, ‘Your Spirit Animal is a Jackass,’ and he is an Adjunct Professor of Indigenous Studies at the University of Colorado Denver. John also talks with Julie Francella who's a mental health professional experienced in handling complex trauma with Indigenous youth and families. She's also an enrolled member of the Ojibway of Batchewana First Nation Reserve, and teaches Indigenous Studies at Durham College, focusing on the impacts of colonization on First Nations people. They discuss TIME magazine featuring Jordan Harmon and Mackenzie Roberts, two citizens of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, on the cover of its issue titled “The People vs. AI,” highlighting a growing grassroots pushback against the unchecked expansion of artificial intelligence infrastructure across the United States. They also talk about the state of New Mexico finally investigating the forced sterilization of native women and in Sant Fe there's a big fight over a monument honoring calvary soldiers which native protesters toppled in 2020. Sant Fe residents are claiming the monument represented generations of genocide against Native Americans.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm so ready to talk to Simon and Julie because between the Muskogee Nation citizens, |
| 0:11.3 | getting the cover of Time magazine after stopping a massive AI data center on tribal land, |
| 0:17.1 | and then New Mexico, finally having this investigation into the forced sterilization |
| 0:22.0 | of native women. And then in Santa Fe, there's a monument fight about honoring soldiers |
| 0:27.8 | who battled so-called savage Indians. I am so glad to be joined once again by Simon |
| 0:33.7 | Moyes Smith and Julie Franchella. Simon is an Oglala Lakota and Chicano journalist. He's a contributing writer at NBC News and The Nation.com. He's the author of the forthcoming book, Your Spirit Adamal, is a jackass, and he is an adjunct professor of Indigenous Studies at the University of Colorado, Denver. Simon, it's so good to see you. I hope you're enjoying all this snow we're providing you in your first winter here. It's taller than I am. |
| 0:57.4 | Seriously, they're trying to clear the street off, and they're locking the car in, and it's, like, six feet tall. |
| 1:04.2 | So I'm shoveling out six feet of snow, and all of these tall white people are looking at me, like Frodo Baggins. |
| 1:10.9 | Just trying to get the fucking car out. |
| 1:13.9 | This is insane, man. |
| 1:15.4 | Oh, I know. I'm sorry. |
| 1:17.0 | I share your burden, although I don't have a car. |
| 1:20.6 | I just have to slip on my way to the subway. |
| 1:23.7 | Julie Franchella is a mental health professional with over 30 years of experience handling complex trauma with indigenous |
| 1:28.3 | Youth and Families. Julie's an enrolled member of the Ojibway of Batchewana First Nation Reserve. |
| 1:33.3 | She teaches Indigenous studies at Durham College, focusing on the impacts of colonization on First Nations people. |
| 1:38.3 | Julie, it is so good to see you. Welcome back. |
| 1:40.3 | Thank you so much for having us back as always. |
| 1:43.3 | And Simon, it's good for your muscles, |
| 1:45.9 | man. It's like a workout. You don't even have to go to the gym. No, but when your legs look |
| 1:50.7 | bigger than your arms, you know, it's different. That's not very sexy. Trust me, it is. |
| 1:57.8 | The sense of satisfaction you feel after digging out a car, I grew up with a very, a driveway. My dad made me do that all the time. It didn't build character, but I'm glad I survived. I am so glad to see you guys right now. After this week, after everything that we've been going through, I'm so ready to talk about this story about these two Muskogee citizens who helped |
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