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So I am pleased to welcome Simon Moyes Smith.

He's an Oglala Lakota and Chicano journalist.

He's a contributing writer at NBC News and The Nation.com.

Simon's the author of the forthcoming book, Your Spirit Animal is a jackass, and he's an adjunct professor of indigenous studies at the University of Colorado, Denver. Simon is so good to see you. Welcome back. Love to be here, man. Thank you. Love to see you. Julie Franchella is a mental health professional with over 30 years experience in handling complex trauma within indigenous youth and families.

Julie's an enrolled member of the Ojibwe of Batchewana First Nation region. health professional with over 30 years experience and handling complex trauma within indigenous

youth and families. Julie's an enrolled member of the Ojibwe of Batchewana First Nation Reserve.

She teaches indigenous studies at Durham College, focusing on the impacts of colonization and First

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