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The Owen Jones Podcast

We're Not Seen As HUMAN - Palestinian Writer's Emotional Plea - w/. Ahmed Najar

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, News & Politics, News, Government

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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0:00.0

My anxiety has kicked off and I held the phone like a mad, frantically, like a mad person

0:09.7

trying to call my family.

0:11.9

Israel resumed, of course, it's genocidal violence against the Palestinian people.

0:16.5

I mean, the so-called ceasefire course was no such thing.

0:19.3

About 150 Palestinians had already been killed in Gaza during the so-called ceasefire course was no such thing. About 150 Palestinians had already been killed in Gaza

0:22.0

during the so-called ceasefire. But we saw hundreds of Palestinians, many of them children,

0:27.5

including of course babies, being butchered by the Israeli military with no warning whatsoever,

0:33.8

as during Ramadan, Palestinians were sleeping in their tents. Now, to discuss this latest

0:41.3

obscenity and kind of significance of it, I guess, is I'm really glad to be joined again by

0:48.8

Akman Najjar, who is from Gaza. He's a playwright and writer. And obviously, we've been

0:53.4

talking, we talked during the

0:56.1

genocide. Well, firstly, I mean, I just want to ask him, and you're from, you're from Gaza.

1:02.2

Your home was already destroyed us a while ago by the Israeli military. When you, when you

1:07.7

woke up and heard what was happening to your fellow people in Gaza, what went through your head?

1:17.6

I woke up actually at 4 o'clock in the morning to have Sahar because I'm doing Ramadan.

1:24.5

And I normally hesitate to look at my phone just in case if anything

1:29.3

happens and I always tell myself, you know, I can find out later. Then I just did look at my

1:36.4

phone and I've seen all the images coming in, horrifying images of children being literally

1:44.0

slaughtered and and and women screaming and men carrying

1:52.4

their children running and images that kind of brought me back to what was going on in Gaza, to the genocide that was

2:02.9

taking place in Gaza.

2:05.3

And immediately my heart started pounding, but I was looking at the number of people being

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