We’re Giving These Guys Money?! : A Conversation about the Presidential Slush Fund with Liz Oyer
The PoliticsGirl Podcast
MeidasTouch Network, Leigh McGowan
4.9 • 4.5K Ratings
🗓️ 26 May 2026
⏱️ 50 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The amount of debt that Donald Trump has forgiven through pardons is over $1.5 billion. |
| 0:07.4 | That's money that is owed to victims of crime as well as taxpayers from financial frauds and other crimes committed by wealthy Americans that were then forgiven by Donald Trump. |
| 0:18.1 | So $1.5 billion owed to us and to victims of crimes that Trump wiped out |
| 0:23.2 | with his partons. |
| 0:33.3 | Hello, and welcome to the Politics Girl podcast. I'm your host Lee McGowan. Let's get into it. |
| 0:38.5 | Well, after this week, the Trump administration is no longer just a corrupt enterprise. It's more like a criminal one. |
| 0:44.7 | In case you weren't following the case where Donald Trump was suing the Justice Department over a leaked tax return, the same tax returns he'd promised to release himself since 2014, but never did. |
| 0:56.1 | Trump was demanding a $10 billion payout, but has now officially dropped the lawsuit, which |
| 1:01.9 | was completely outrageous. It was a case that likely would have been thrown out should it have |
| 1:05.7 | ever got to court, because his personally appointed lawyer and current acting attorney general |
| 1:10.5 | offered him a settlement |
| 1:11.8 | instead. A settlement, which, among other things, will give him a $1.8 billion slush fund from taxpayer |
| 1:19.3 | dollars to do with what he wants. To talk about this lawsuit, the settlement and the additional |
| 1:24.9 | side dishes of the settlement, I am speaking today with |
| 1:27.7 | former DOJ official and presidential pardon lawyer Liz Oyer about what she calls the biggest heist |
| 1:33.2 | in history. If you don't know Liz from social media or substack, where she gives her legal and |
| 1:38.0 | governmental expertise to us daily, she was fired from the DOJ in March 2025 after she refused |
| 1:43.8 | Trump's request to let Mel Gibson have his gun rights restored just because he wanted them to be. |
| 1:49.8 | To her, the law still mattered, because along with her being a pardon attorney, Liz had spent 10 years as a federal public defender. |
| 1:57.3 | So without further ado, please welcome my guest, former DOJ pardon attorney, federal public defender, |
| 2:03.0 | and legal experts sounding the alarm about the Trump administration's abuse of our legal system, Liz Oyer. |
| 2:08.9 | Welcome, Liz. |
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