Welcome to another edition of the Chips on the Way podcast, where by weekly we talk to

our good good friend Zach Abraham from Bullwirt Capital Management and we're very, very

excited to talk to him about a couple things today, namely the first one being this impending

government shutdown, which I have said on our show, I've just kind of stopped caring about

and I don't know, I know Daisy kind of feels the same way. Yeah, I mean, we're all right.

It would be great if we could just shut it down and not pay them. That would be fantastic.

That the only thing that bothers me is if we shut it down, we still have to pay these yahuos,

but you know, that's not the utopia that I would like. So the politicians get paid, not the people

that actually do the right. Exactly, exactly. I would like, that's a good correction, Zach,

like I would like that the politicians don't get paid, because what do they do? What exactly do you do

here? Yeah, yeah. So just really quick, the budgets, or excuse me, the debt ceiling talk,

right, the government shutdown talk, all of that to me goes in the same category because

it's just Kabuki theater by nature, right? It's just political theater. They will not continue

to do that and it'll be short lived and it doesn't matter. Okay, okay, all right, so we're right.

So we don't really have to worry about it. All right, so we'll talk about something that matters.

Let's talk about something that matters. Yeah, like what is going on with the real estate market?

What is happening? I know lots and lots of people are confused and worried and concerned and tell

us, give us the real dirty. Yeah, so we pay attention to it really closely because real estate is

still a very big part of the economy. The part about it that interests us the most right now is that

when you look at one of the things that we watch on a regular basis is something that we call

LEIs, okay, leading economic indicators. And it, you know, they can be leading a certain way that

nothing has a hundred percent accuracy, but you put enough from together and it gives you a really

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