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We Need Hopepunk

Skytalkers

Charlotte Errity & Caitlin Plesher

Tv & Film, After Shows, Film Reviews

4.7623 Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2020

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

“The opposite of grimdark is hopepunk.” - Alexandra Rowland in 2017. Caitlin and Charlotte explore just why we need HOPEPUNK now more than ever in Star Wars storytelling. On this episode: What is hopepunk? Is Star Wars inherently hopepunk? What stories have the potential to be more hopepunk than others and why is this a type of story we revere? All this and more on Skytalkers.   The original Tumblr post: https://ariaste.tumblr.com/post/163500138919/ariaste-the-opposite-of-grimdark-is-hopepunk  Vox article mentioned: https://www.vox.com/2018/12/27/18137571/what-is-hopepunk-noblebright-grimdark   Our Sticker Sheet is available now: https://skytalkers.com/shop/ http://www.twitter.com/skytalkerspod http://facebook.com/skytalkerspod https://www.instagram.com/skytalkerspodcast http://www.twitter.com/crerrity http://www.twitter.com/caitlinplesher http://skytalkers.com https://www.patreon.com/skytalkers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hope punk, hope punk, hope punk, hope punk? Say it three times fast, use it are your hosts, Charlotte and Caitlin.

0:33.0

Hello and welcome to Sky Talkers. I'm your host Charlotte.

0:36.2

Hey, everyone. I'm your other host, Caitlin, and welcome to this episode where we are discussing the theme, the genre, the term hope punk. Yeah. I think that Caitlin and I have been feeling quite down in 2020.

0:51.8

And I think that I kind of reached this point where last night I was like, we have to,

1:00.4

I just has been on the episode list for a while that we wanted to talk about this because

1:04.6

it was, I just feel so relevant to like what we want to see in storytelling and we'll get

1:08.7

into that.

1:09.6

But the term hope punk, it just feels like what we need. see in storytelling and we'll get into that. But the term hope punk,

1:11.1

it just feels like what we need. I feel like we are drowning in depressing, sad content and

1:18.3

like stories that were, yes, developed like a year or two years ago, but all compounded in this

1:24.4

year, which feels so rough. So I think that we just needed to talk about what we

1:30.0

love about this subgenre that deserves more recognition and just kind of discuss what it is in

1:36.4

like a really casual setting. I'm no expert. I didn't come up with this term. And Caitlin isn't either.

1:41.2

So I think that we're just excited to talk about this. Yeah, I think we've kind of

1:45.2

reached our breaking point. I feel like there was a show that I watch, had a really bad ending recently.

1:52.1

There was some new Tross news that came out on the internet recently. And it just kind of, like within a 48-hour period. And I feel like the internet, at it just kind of like within a 48 hour period and I feel like the

2:02.5

internet at least like my and charlotte's corner of it kind of spiraled for about 48 hours of just

2:11.5

like why is everything so sad and in our storytelling and in the real world too.

2:18.5

So I think we kind of felt that this is a term that, I mean, this is a new term.

2:25.6

I wouldn't say that it's anything that's like, it hasn't been around for 20 plus years.

2:30.1

It was a term that was coined by someone on Tumblr, right, named Alec Hedger Roland, who coined the term Hope Punk in 2017.

2:38.9

And I hadn't even really heard of it until earlier this year.

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