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Inquiring Minds

We might be approaching the study of cancer all wrong

Inquiring Minds

Inquiring Minds

Female Host, Critical Thinking, Society & Culture, Neuroscience, Interview, Science, Social Sciences

4.4848 Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2019

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

We talk to oncologist, professor of medicine, and director of the MDS Center at Columbia University Azra Raza about her new book The First Cell: And the Human Costs of Pursuing Cancer to the Last.Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/inquiringminds

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0:00.0

You and Betty and the Nancy's and Bill's and Joes and Jane's will find in the study of science

0:06.4

a richer, more rewarding life.

0:12.0

Welcome to Inquiring Minds. I'm Indravis Gontas. This is a podcast that explores the space

0:17.3

where science and society collide. We want to find out what's true, what's left to discover,

0:21.6

and why it matters.

0:22.6

There's more than what we see.

0:31.6

A couple of months ago, I lost a beloved aunt to cancer. It was very fast, unexpectedly so. And a few months before that,

0:39.3

I lost another friend who had spent five years battling cancer, and she was only 39 when she passed.

0:45.5

In both of these cases, I was surprised at how virulent the disease was, at how little we

0:50.4

seem to be able to do, and yet how many treatment options there were, how expensive

0:55.6

they were, and ultimately, how ineffective. And of course, I'm not alone in terms of experiencing

1:01.6

a loss of someone to cancer, and I'm also not alone abomining the high costs of treatment.

1:08.0

But when is it time for us to actually do something about it? We trust that the

1:12.0

entire medical profession is moving forward as best they can. And we trust that the fight to

1:16.7

cure cancer is one that is on the minds of some very, very, very smart people. But is even the

1:22.4

whole idea of finding a cure for cancer now misguided? I mean, when I was growing up, it was one of the things

1:29.0

that people said they wanted to do when they grew up. It was like, I'm going to be an astronaut,

1:33.2

or I want to cure cancer, or I want to be a race car driver. It wasn't like, I want to find another

1:38.9

treatment for anxiety disorders, or I'd like to extend the life of a cancer patient by an extra two months.

1:46.1

And yet it seems that in all of these years, we just haven't gotten that far in terms of

1:51.1

extending the lives of people who have incurable cancers. There's also a woman who is

1:56.5

actually calling for a complete rethink of how we approach the study and treatment of cancer.

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