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And there was a moment where he starts playing, and I looked at the president.

The president was like, looking at me, We're both like, this is happening.

This is happening in front of it.

This is crazy.

This is crazy.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

No, I mean, because if you think about Barack, I mean, for me, it's a special moment.

But if you're Barack Obama or like Thelma Gold and Michelle Obama, like anybody, any, and especially any black person who had the like lay on the floor and look at the liner notes while the album plays moment.

And that was how you experienced these albums to be sitting in a room.

I don't care.

I mean, I mean, it is, I mean, it's Barack Obama.

But at the end of the day, what I'm saying to you about being human is this person,

this very important American human is sitting there being transported.

I'm just going to, I'm'm gonna impute feelings to a person.

I know what he was feeling in that moment.

He was, he was 11 again.

He was 13 again.

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