'We live in a right-wing country': Malaika Jabali on Kenosha, rebellions, and the election
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Pushback with Aaron Maté
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🗓️ 30 August 2020
⏱️ 26 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Pushback. I'm Erin Matte. |
| 0:05.0 | Joining me is Malika Jabali, attorney, writer, activist, columnist for The Guardian, reporting from Kenosha, Wisconsin, the site of the shooting of Jacob Blake by police and the ensuing protests. |
| 0:19.0 | Malika, welcome to pushback. |
| 0:21.6 | Hi, Aaron. |
| 0:22.6 | Thanks for having me. |
| 0:23.6 | Your thoughts on what you've seen so far? |
| 0:26.6 | It is quite disturbing, actually. |
| 0:30.6 | When I first arrived, you could see the aftermath of some of the uprising. And it's really not that. That is so disturbing. It was |
| 0:42.7 | their reaction to it from, well, first of all, the fact that you have a young man, 29 years old, |
| 0:50.4 | Jacob Blake, who was shot at point blank range seven to eight times. |
| 0:54.4 | There have been no repercussions for the officer. |
| 0:57.0 | People out here have very few, have very little recourse to fight back. |
| 1:03.0 | So they're fighting back with whatever ways that they can. |
| 1:06.0 | It kind of reminds me of folks on the border Palestinians on the Gaza Strip who are fighting back with |
| 1:13.5 | whatever resources they have, rocks thrown at tank. |
| 1:16.3 | That's precisely the dynamic that we have here with the Black Lives Matter protesters. |
| 1:24.1 | And then you also have this radical right wing who, you know, I will say is a minority, but |
| 1:29.7 | clearly an armed and dangerous minority who have descended onto the city. And instead of calling |
| 1:35.6 | that out what you're seeing in response to someone who has killed two people, shop three in total, |
| 1:42.5 | is a welcoming of this kind of behavior. So I've seen some double |
| 1:48.7 | standards. I heard the gunshots go out that night when Kyle Rittenhouse shot those individuals. |
| 1:57.5 | I've seen the response, the disproportionate response from police officers with tear gas. |
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