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Opening Arguments

We knew the Epstein plea deal was awful. Newly released emails make it EVEN WORSE.

Opening Arguments

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Law, Opinion, Politics, News, Liberal, Legal, Supremecourt, Harvard, Atheist

4.33.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

E18 - Congress required the Department of Justice to release (nearly) everything it had from the investigations into Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell by December 19th, so of course they pretended to do that on time on Friday afternoon and then waited until everyone was just about to start heading home for the holidays before actually dumping 30,000 pages of anything resembling actual substance into the record on Tuesday morning. We review and discuss new revelations on how much more time Trump spent on Epstein’s plane than we ever knew, the 30-year-old FBI report that could have changed everything, the astonishing correspondence between the prosecution and the Epstein defense team throughout his 2008 plea negotiations, and so much more.

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  1. The Epstein Files Transparency Act 

  2. Epstein Files database (Camaron Stephenson)

  3. DOJ Office of Professional Responsibility report on Epstein plea negotiations (NOV. 2020)

  4. Maria Farmer's 1996 report to the FBI

  5. Opinion and Order from Judge Kenneth Marra in Jane Doe cases summarizing DOJ’s failure to advise Epstein survivors of the 2008 Non-Prosecution Agreement and plea

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to opening arguments. It is Wednesday. Wildcard Wednesday, everybody. And what a

0:16.4

wildcard it is. I guess it's pedophile files release day. I don't know. Something starts with a W that goes

0:22.8

whatever. Anyway, it's also Merry Christmas. Here's a bunch of Epstein files, everybody. I'm Thomas.

0:30.0

That over there, of course, is real life immigration attorney Matt Cameron. How are you doing, Matt?

0:34.3

I'm very happy to be joining you for the darkest Christmas special ever recorded.

0:54.4

I think pretty much. Yeah. Bad timing, but here we are. A very upstein Christmas. Indeed, indeed. As we have to call it. And of course, Lydia Smith, how you doing? I'm here happy to be with you guys. Not happy to be talking about this, but it's obviously really important. So I'm glad that we are ultimately. Yeah, I'm just happy. Fine, I'll say it. I'm happy to be talking about it. I just think

1:00.6

any time, yeah, it's not like this is of the, of the political things that we have to be discussing.

1:07.2

This is like you'd root for this because this means things are happening.

1:18.4

Maybe people are going to be upset at Trump. But anyway, we got file dumps. They're weird.

1:23.2

They're redacted. At first, it seemed like everything was redacted and it was just black pieces of paper. And then it wasn't. And then some of it was badly redacted. And then some of it is fake, some of it's not. We got so much to dig through. I'm hoping, Matt, that you'll be able to, at the very least, just give us like the actual facts. Like I think that the misinformation is so bad these days that even for the folks who listen to us, and I include myself in this as a listener to you,

1:45.2

even if we just tell people like, yes, this one is real that you've seen, this one isn't real.

1:50.0

You know, even that is like a service nowadays because so few people actually check.

1:55.6

And we're happy to be the folks who actually check for some folks.

1:59.8

Yeah, well, Department of Justice released 30,000 pages this morning, and I have read all of them, of course, so fully prepared to, fully briefed. Well, it's not hard because there's only like one word per page. Right. Lots of black bars. No, this actually, this morning's release was a lot more substantial, which is why I'm going to try to do my best to get through as much as I can. I just started looking at it, you know, this morning. I already had some time blocked out. You know, we're getting into the holidays here. But, you know, this is a first draft. This is our first time around. We're going to highlight some of the stuff I've found. Some of the stuff I've not seen in the media yet. Some of the media started to catch. It's been kind of fun because all day, everybody's working from the same pages. We're just trying to figure out. You know, no advantages, except for the fact that there's teams of researchers at CBS and there's just me and Olivia otherwise, but, you know, we don't know we can. Yeah. Yeah, we, that is important to know. There's literally stuff dropping, like, as we're recording this. We kind of waited as long as we could, but so there's inevitably going to be some sort of breaking whatever.

2:51.7

But we've tried to keep pretty up to the minute in terms of our now.

2:56.4

So we'll see.

2:58.1

So I'm looking forward to that.

2:59.6

I guess we'd better take our break and we better thank our patrons.

3:03.5

Thank you so much patrons.

3:04.9

Hey, it's Christmas and you got us the best gift of all financial support. Thank you. much, patrons. Hey, it's Christmas, and you got us the best gift of all financial support.

3:09.5

Thank you.

3:10.9

We don't need socks.

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