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The Next Level

We Hate Him, So They Love Him (with Ron Filipkowski)

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Ron Filipkowski joins Tim to talk his journey from lawyer to never-Trump political commentator. Together, they analyze the MAGA transformation of the party they once called home, lambast Ron DeSantis' attempts to peel off Trump supporters, and explain how he balances his day job with his constant tweets on conservative crazies.

Watch Tim interview Ron here: https://youtu.be/0dLxCE86VuQ

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the next level Sunday interview I'm Tim Miller. Today I've got my friend Ron Philip

0:14.3

Kowski a guy I call the Kelly Clarkson of the Republican voters against Trump

0:18.9

campaign. Ron was a Republican lawyer in Sarasota and his life turned upside down when he submitted his

0:25.3

Arvat video.

0:26.7

Now he monitors far-right extremists from dusk till dawn, while still lawyering. And he's gained a massive influential following for his

0:35.2

clips of the most shocking MAGA material. We talk about the fever swamps, how he's

0:40.6

dealing with that mentally, whether his family and friends think he's lost his mind,

0:45.0

but most importantly his insights into the underworld of MAGA media.

0:49.0

Remember to check us out on YouTube, subscribe to us on YouTube, give us a review on Apple if you haven't.

0:54.3

You're gonna enjoy this one up next, Ron Philip Kowski with since you've been gone,

0:59.1

but first our friends at Acid Tung. Peace. Hello, and welcome to the Next Level Sunday show. I'm your host Tim Miller.

1:23.2

I'm here with my buddy Ron Philip Kowski.

1:26.4

Now, as you know, on the Sunday interviews,

1:27.8

we've brought in some celebrities,

1:30.1

we've brought in some folks from Hollywood,

1:32.4

and so I thought it would be an appropriate vehicle to do an interview I've wanted to do for a long time with the Kelly Clarkson of Arvat.

1:38.8

The man I call the Kelly Clarkson of Republican voters against Trump, he now has, I don't know, like almost a

1:43.7

million people following his monitoring and his clipping of the far right

1:47.6

media, a backstory like many of us of the board could been a Republican. He

1:51.9

still has a day jump somehow in the midst of doing all this.

1:54.7

I want to talk to Ron about both his life,

1:57.8

how he got to hear, but also if there's ever an interview

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