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Cannonball with Wesley Morris

We Grieve Charlottesville

Cannonball with Wesley Morris

The New York Times

News Commentary, Society & Culture, News, Arts

4.89.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2017

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

What happened in Charlottesville, Va., over the weekend was the largest public melee during a presidential administration that includes men with white nationalist ties. Three people were killed, dozens of people were injured and the country was thrown into a state of anguish and shock. The show was on vacation, but we came back early to do a special episode about Charlottesville. We talk about why the violence there isn’t surprising, what it means to remove totems of the American Confederacy and what a verbal apology from President Trump is really worth.

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0:00.0

I'm Jenna Wortham.

0:01.4

I'm Wesley Morris.

0:02.8

We're two culture writers at the New York Times.

0:05.4

I'm mostly right about how humans relate to technology.

0:08.2

And I'm mostly right about how popular culture and movies relate to humans.

0:13.1

This is still processing.

0:25.0

Hey, friend.

0:26.0

Hi.

0:26.8

How are you doing?

0:28.0

I'm sad, actually.

0:30.0

I mean, it's an existential sadness.

0:32.0

I am not going to hitch my sadness to what happened over the weekend.

0:36.4

But I was on vacation.

0:38.8

The show was on vacation.

0:40.4

For some reason, all hell breaks loose in Charlottesville, Virginia.

0:44.8

For many reasons, which we're going to get into.

0:46.4

I don't know.

0:47.3

I feel like we had to come back and talk to each other about it,

0:51.2

because it seemed crazy not to.

0:53.4

What is the point of having this show of when things like this happen?

0:55.9

We can't talk about them.

0:57.6

And every time these things come up, I get down,

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