We Get Bodied Talking Jay-Z and Beyoncé

Cannonball with Wesley Morris

The New York Times

News Commentary, Society & Culture, News, Arts

4.8 • 9.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2017

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

“4:44” is Jay-Z’s first album since Beyoncé turned their marital trouble into a masterpiece called "Lemonade." On “4:44,” Jay-Z expresses regret for his infidelity and ruminates on the socioeconomic state of black America. The album is knotty and contradictory, especially when compared with the psychological clarity of "Lemonade." We spend the episode unpacking “4:44” as a work unto itself, and also in the context of “Lemonade.” We also discuss why the survival and performance of Jay-Z and Beyoncé’s marriage means so much to the culture and to us.

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0:00.0	I'm Jenna Wortham.
0:01.2	I'm Wesley Morris.
0:02.6	We're two culture writers at the New York Times.
0:05.0	I mostly write about how humans relate to technology.
0:07.8	And I mostly write about how I wish Jay-Z and Beyonce
0:10.8	would just fly off into the clouds forever.
0:13.0	Let's get into it.
0:14.4	This is...
0:15.5	Still processing!
0:26.8	Well, welcome back to Still Processing.
0:29.1	Wesley.
0:29.7	Yeah.
0:30.4	What are your tabs to speak?
0:31.4	What are the things in your tabs?
0:32.9	Let's see.
0:33.5	What do I have open?
0:34.6	Oh, the thing I have open this week, first of all,
0:37.4	is a restaurant concern?
0:40.3	If I walk into your establishment,
0:42.2	and I have to stand there for longer than 90 seconds
0:44.5	before anybody inside acknowledges that I am there,
0:48.5	I'm going to leave.
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