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Cannonball with Wesley Morris

We Get Biracial

Cannonball with Wesley Morris

The New York Times

News Commentary, Society & Culture, News, Arts

4.89.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2017

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

For months, the two of us have been trying to figure out a way to have a conversation about the experience of being biracial. This week we just go for it. First, we talk about the cultural and historical suspicion America still has of black-white interracial romantic relationships. It gives us an excuse to revisit the reason ‘‘Get Out’’ has been one of the year’s major movies: It articulates the previously inarticulable about race. Then we consider the offspring of interracial coupling — whether the possibility of occupying two identities (or more) is a choice, a luxury or a delusion; and what fears, doubts or envy nonbiracial black Americans might feel about biracial black Americans. We drop in on Spike Lee’s ‘‘School Daze’’ and the sitcom ‘‘Black-ish.’’ We consider our feelings about Rashida Jones, Drake and Vin Diesel. We unpack the writings of Zadie Smith and Barack Obama. And we kind of have to ask: Aren’t we all a little bit mixed?

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0:00.0

I'm Jenna Wortham.

0:01.3

I'm Wesley Morris.

0:02.8

We're two culture writers at the New York Times.

0:05.5

I mostly write about how humans relate to technology.

0:08.3

I'm mostly right about how popular culture relates to humans.

0:12.0

This is still processing.

0:14.9

Yo, yo.

0:25.5

Yo.

0:26.5

What's up?

0:27.5

We're back.

0:28.5

Welcome back to our show.

0:30.5

I'm feeling a little bit somber today.

0:33.1

This is the, we're still in the days after this depressing shooting in Las Vegas.

0:43.2

I really wanted to start with Puerto Rico, though, because he's getting in a fight with

0:47.4

the mayor of San Juan.

0:49.5

Listen, I mean, our queen and savior Beyoncé is doing more than the president.

0:55.4

She just released a new remix called Miante with Jay Balvin.

0:59.4

And all proceeds, she says, are going to Hurricane Relief in Puerto Rico, Mexico, other

1:04.6

Caribbean affected islands.

1:05.8

I mean, yeah, the earthquake in Mexico.

1:08.6

Yeah.

1:09.6

Yeah.

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