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Eating For Free

We Forgive You Ariana Grande (Part Three)

Eating For Free

Joan Summers and Matthew Lawson

Society & Culture

4.8 • 536 Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2023

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains long conversations about violence, terrorist attacks, suicide, drug use, and alcohol addiction. 

As moral panic descends, let's be brave, and critically examine the mess Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater made of everything! In this week's third installment of our deep-dive series, we look into Ariana's modern pop culture moments and the events leading up to the Manchester bombing attack, as well as Mac Miller's death in 2018--both of which fundamentally changed her life, and her perception in the public media. 

About:

Hosted by journalists Joan Summers and Matthew Lawson, Eating For Free is a weekly podcast that explores gossip and power in the pop culture landscape: Where it comes from, who wields it, and who suffers at the hands of it. Find out the stories behind the stories, as together they look beyond the headlines of troublesome YouTubers or scandal-ridden A-Listers, and delve deep into the inner workings of Hollywood's favorite pastime. The truth, they've found, is definitely stranger than any gossip.

You can also find us on our website, Twitter, and Instagram. Or buy our merch! Any personal, business, or general inquires can be sent to eatingforfreepodcast@gmail.com 

  • Joan Summers: Twitter: @laracroftbarbie
  • Matthew Lawson: Twitter: @_matthewlawson

Sources:

  1. Intro Clip/Interview [Zach Sang Show]
  2. Watch Ariana Grande Fall On Stage [03/10/2015] [Billboard]
  3. Ariana Grande Leaning On 'Scream Queens' Co-Star Lea Michele After Big Sean Split, 04/20/2015 [Hollywood Life]
  4. ARIANA GRANDE: BIG SEAN'S 'BILLION DOLLAR P***Y' LYRIC The Final Straw, 04/24/2015 [TMZ]
  5. Ariana Grande Issues Important Feminist Manifesto, June 8, 2015 [Vanity Fair]
  6. ARIANA GRANDE Tongues New BF [Ricky Alvarez]  … AND AN INNOCENT DONUT!!, 07/07/2015 [TMZ]
  7. Ariana Grande faces California police inquiry over doughnut-licking incident, July 9, 2015 [The Guardian]
  8. Twitter Slams Wendy Williams After Ariana Grande Body-Shaming Comments, Prompts Hashtag #CancelWendyWilliams, 08/14/2015 [E!]
  9. Ariana Grande Speaks Out About Body-Shaming After Being Compared to Ariel Winter, November 2, 2015 [People]
  10. Ariana Grande Blasts DJs for Sexist Questions: 'You Need a Little Brushing Up on Equality' 11/03/2015, [Billboard]
  11. Ariana Grande spent this entire interview educating these lowkey sexist and homophobic interviewers! [Youtube]
  12. Billboard Cover: Ariana Grande on Defending Female Pop Stars and Staying Away From Drama [05/19/2016] [Billboard]
  13. Ariana Grande Had a White House Performance Turned Down After Donut-Licking Incident, 07/22/2016 [Billboard]
  14. Mac Miller on How His Friendship with Ariana Grande Evolved Into More: 'Everything Just Happened Organically', 09/16/2016 [People]
  15. Ariana Grande shuts down Ryan Seacrest's probing questions 09/16/2016 [Mashable]
  16. Ariana Grande Pleads for Fans to 'Stick Together' After Donald Trump Wins Election, 11/09/2016 [Billboard]
  17. Why Ariana Grande Feels Sick After Being Objectified by a Fan: "I Am Not a Piece of Meat" [InStyle]
  18. 22 dead after blast at Ariana Grande concert in Manchester [CNN]
  19. Ariana Grande Reunites With Mac Miller in Florida After Manchester Bombing, 05/23/2017 [E!]
  20. Ariana Grande Pens Powerful Essay After Manchester Attack: ''We Will Not Quit or Operate in Fear'', 05/26/2017 [E!]
  21. How Ariana Grande became an unlikely pop hero: 'We are not objects. We are queens', 05/24/2017 [Guardian]
  22. Ariana Grande Concert Raises $9 Million, Brings 'One Love' To 50 Countries, 06/04/2017 [Forbes]
  23. Families of Ariana Grande Manchester Concert Bombing Victims Will Each Receive $324,000, 08/15/2017 [Billboard]
  24. Ariana Grande Emotional in 'Dangerous Woman World Tour' Hong Kong Finale, 09/21/2017, [Billboard]
  25. Ariana Grande Wrote A Beautiful Goodbye Note To Her 'Dangerous Woman' Tour, 09/21/2017 [MTV]
  26. Folk hero: Ariana Grande Gave an Inspiring Speech at Charlottesville Unity Concert, 09/25/2017 [TeenVogue]
  27. Four Months After Manchester, Ariana Grande Calls for 'Love, Unity, Peace, Gun Control' in Wake of Las Vegas Shooting, 10/02/2017 [People]
  28. Ariana Grande Opens Up About Her Emotional Tour & Keeping a Healthy Perspective, 10/04/2017 [Coveteur]
  29. ARIANA GRANDE & MAC MILLER SPLIT, 05/09/2018 [TMZ]
  30. Mac Miller Reportedly Arrested For DUI, 05/17/2018, [TMZ]
  31. Ariana Grande Calls Her Mac Miller Relationship 'Toxic' In Powerful Message, 05/23/2018 [MTV]
  32. Ariana Grande's Ex Mac Miller Opens Up About Their Breakup and Moving On: 'I Am Happy for Her', 07/28/2018 [ET]
  33. Mac Miller Dead at 26 of Apparent Overdose: 'He Was a Bright Light in This World' Says Family, 09/7/18 [People]
  34. Ariana Grande Turns Off Instagram Comments as Trolls Blame Her for Ex Mac Miller's Death [People] (Same Day)
  35. Ariana Grande 'Devastated' by Mac Miller's Death, Source Says (Exclusive), 09/07/2018 [ET]
  36. Ariana Grande Was "Unbelievably Involved" in Supporting Mac Miller's Sobriety, Says the Late Artist's Friend [W]
  37. Ariana Grande Breaks Her Silence About Mac Miller's Death, 09/14/2018 [Variety]
  38. ARIANA GRANDE & PETE DAVIDSON MAC MILLER'S DEATH WAS BREAKING POINT, 10/15/2018 [TMZ]
  39. Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber Manager Scooter Braun Talks Tough Times and Big Payoffs 10/28/2018 [Variety]
  40. Ariana Grande on Grief and Growing Up, July 9, 2019 [Vogue]
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Transcript

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0:00.0

But we all knew that the first version was going to be the version we ultimately went with.

0:04.0

But you needed to get that out of your system.

0:06.0

But yeah, I just wanted to cover all the bases.

0:08.0

And it was a big risk and a very scary thing to do because it is my life.

0:14.0

I understand that like to a lot of people, I'm not a real person.

0:18.0

It's easy to kind of just like see me as like a song or a picture or like a thing that kind of exists in their head and they know what they know and that's it.

0:30.5

But at the end of the day, these are people and relationships that have, you know.

0:37.3

Real impact.

0:38.4

Yeah.

0:39.7

I'm a little bit.

0:41.1

I'm like tearing up.

0:42.4

But, you know, it's real shit to me.

0:46.3

It's real life.

0:46.9

It is real life.

0:48.1

And spent a lot of time with each of those people.

0:53.1

Like learning and

0:54.2

so

0:55.1

these gays

0:56.7

they're trying to murder me

0:58.3

what do I think of her

1:02.8

I don't think of her

1:05.4

goodbye

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