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Still Processing

We Don’t Love Everything Made By Black People and That’s OK?

Still Processing

The New York Times

News Commentary, Society & Culture, News, Arts

4.89.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2018

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

This week, we discuss "A Wrinkle in Time," Ava DuVernay's attempt to take the audience on a magical adventure with Meg Murray as she searches for her father through multiple universes. Our time traveling experience ... wasn’t as magical as we hoped. But this is good news. We explain why the film's shortcomings do not impact the upward trajectory of Ava DuVernay career or black filmmaking in general, but actually work to highlight the progress of black filmmakers and encourage black artists to take bigger risks. We dive deep into what it means to criticize black works of art and express what gets lost when we decide it’s beyond criticism. Discussed this week: O.J. Simpson described ‘blood and stuff’ in hypothetical scenario (Jean Casarez, CNN) “How to raise a Boy; I’m not sure what to think about what my dad tried to teach me. So what should I teach my sons?” (New York Magazine, Will Leitch) Fathers and Sons and Privilege (The Brian Lehrer Show, WNYC Studios) “In My View” - Young Fathers “For Decades, Our Coverage Was Racist. To Rise Above Our Past, We Must Acknowledge It” (National Geographic, Susan Goldberg) A Wrinkle in Time (Madeleine L’Engle, Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 1962) A Wrinkle in Time (Walt Disney Studios) Black Panther (Marvel Studios) “The Sounds, Space And Spirit of ‘Selma’: A Director’s Take” (NPR, Fresh Air) “Black Kids Don’t Want to Read About Harriet Tubman All the Time” (The New York Times, Denene Millner) Lemonade (Beyonce, Parkwood Entertainment) Mapping the Margins: Intersectionality, Identity Politics, and Violence against Women of Color (Kimberly Crenshaw, 1991) Small Doses with Amanda Seales (Starburns Audio) How To Get Away With Murder (ABC) Scandal (ABC) Mo’Nique Calls For Netflix Boycott Over Alleged Gender and Race Pay Disparity (Deadline, Dino-Ray Ramos)

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0:00.0

I'm Jenna Wortham.

0:01.2

I'm Wesley Morris.

0:02.7

We're two culture writers at the New York Times.

0:05.2

I'm mostly right about how humans relate to technology.

0:08.0

And I'm mostly right about how popular culture and movies relate to humans.

0:12.4

This is still processing.

0:24.9

And we're back.

0:25.9

This week, we're going to talk about a wrinkle in time,

0:28.4

which we both saw the new Ava Dupernay kids movie.

0:31.6

And then we're going to have a broader conversation about what it means

0:35.6

that we both didn't love the movie and how we talk about Black art

0:39.2

and what it means to not like stuff just because it's Black.

0:43.4

But before that, I want to check in with you and hear how you're doing.

0:47.2

So what's going on, Wes?

0:48.4

Irene, Jenna.

0:49.7

Wesley.

0:50.4

What is going on with America?

0:52.4

Marvin Gaye asked that question a year ago and we still don't have an answer.

0:55.2

I watched this OJ thing that happened.

0:59.1

Last Sunday.

1:00.4

I'm still not over it.

1:01.9

You're shook.

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