Our disagreements are obvious.

I mean, Cornell's honorary chairman of Democratic Socialists of America, and I'm not,

I'm a traditional, old school, conservative.

But I think that may obscure the profound points of commonality that really are deeper.

Far from treating challenges or criticisms as personal attacks, he treats them as opportunities for learning.

The only way we can hope to make any progress toward truth is to allow ourselves to be

challenged, to consider the best arguments, the best that has been thought and said on competing

sides of issues, and not say I'm not going to go to Thanksgiving dinner because, you know, grandma's going to say something to go to Thanksgiving dinner because grandma's going to say something that offends me

or Uncle Joe is going to say something that offends me.

We have to be open to the possibility of learning from each other.

Well, today, folks, I am joined by two leading public intellectuals, one progressive, one conservative, both deep, dear friends. And I'm excited to have this conversation. Now, I'm just telling him, warning ahead of time. You know, you may want to

bring a pen and pad. You may want to bring a dictionary because we go deep and we have fun getting

there with Dr. Robert George, who is the professor of jurisprudence and director of the James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions at Princeton University.

He has served as chairman of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom and on the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights and the U.S. President's Council on Ethics and Scientific Knowledge and Technology.

He holds the degree from Harvard University and Oxford University

and is a recipient of the US Presidential Citizens Medal

and the President's Award for Distinguished Teaching at Princeton University.

In other words, he's smart as hell. And then there's my buddy

Cornell West, Dr. Cornell West, a professor of philosophy and Christian practice at Union

Theological Seminary. He's also class of 1943 professor of African American Studies Emeritus at Princeton

University.

He is a graduate of Harvard College and obtained his MA and PhD in philosophy at Princeton.

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