We Defended Your Worst Tortured Poets Takes So You Don’t Have To

Evolution of a Snake: The Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

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🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

The Tortured Poets Department is officially two years old...which means the recency bias excuse has LOGGED OFF. Today, we’re putting Taylor Swift’s most divisive era on trial. From the overstuffed track list allegations to the Matty Healy of it all, we are prosecuting and defending the most insane, unpopular, and frankly unhinged opinions you sent in. Was TTPD a bloated career mistake or a misunderstood masterpiece that required two years to breathe?

SPECIAL TOUR PREVIEW: This segment is a first look at what we're bringing to the stage for our new tour, The Showgirl Experience! In our live show, one of us will be defending and the other will be prosecuting your most controversial TLOAS opinions. Consider this TTPD trial your opening statement for what's coming to a city near you.

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0:00.0	Isn't life grander, and making it better just got easier with Starbucks new protein cold foam.
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0:34.2	Add a delicious swirl on top of your drink, just like that. Protein never tasted so good with
0:40.9	Starbucks new protein cold foam. Subject to availability while stocks last. Welcome back to Evolution
0:46.9	of a Snake. I'm Zach. And I am Madeline. And if you didn't know, which you should know,
0:53.3	it is two years of one of the greatest albums ever made in the history of the world.
0:58.4	Taylor Swift's The Tortured Poets Department.
1:00.5	This album has only become more and more beautiful, gratuitous, gorgeousina in hindsight.
1:07.5	And we thought, today, we should do something fun and give our gorgeous listeners
1:12.7	a sneak peek of the showgirl experience, which is coming to a city near you. You need to go
1:17.2	to evolutionofesnake.com and get your tickets. We're coming to New York City. We're coming to
1:20.4	Chicago. We're coming to Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, San Francisco, L.A., D.C., Boston, and Philly. And we would love to see you there.
1:30.6	Meet and greets are sold out in many cities and we got low ticket warnings. Go, go, go, go, go.
1:34.3	Basically, something we're going to be doing on stage is defending and prosecuting your unpopular showgirl
1:40.9	opinions. So this is replacing our phona snake segment. And today we're going to be
1:44.7	doing that with tortured poets. We said to our listeners, tell us what your strong or unpopular
1:50.2	opinions about torture poets are. Madeline's going to flip a coin. One of us will have to defend
1:54.8	the opinion that we've shared. And one of us will have to prosecute. Madeline, how are you feeling
1:59.7	about this? I'm feeling very positive.
2:02.1	I'm feeling very Judge Judy.
2:03.8	I'm feeling the power of the legal system coursing through my veins.
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