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The Brendan O'Neill Show

‘We can’t make peace with a terrorist state’ | Ex-Israeli ambassador Michael Oren

The Brendan O'Neill Show

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News, Society & Culture, Government, Politics

4.71.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Michael Oren – Israeli ambassador to the Obama administration – is the latest guest on The Brendan O’Neill Show. Michael and Brendan discuss Iran’s ceaseless war against the US, why Trump is losing credibility in the Middle East and how the West lost its way. Join us for the spiked summit, our biggest ever live event, on Saturday 27 June in Westminster featuring Konstantin Kisin, Lionel Shriver, Katharine Birbalsingh, Toby Young, Allison Pearson, Brendan O’Neill, Tom Slater and more speakers to be announced. Get tickets here: https://www.spiked-online.com/event/spiked-summit/  Become a spiked supporter to access all of spiked’s exclusive content, and get unlimited, ad-free reading and other perks: https://www.spiked-online.com/support/ Order Brendan O’Neill’s Vibe Shift now from: 🇬🇧 📕 Amazon UK:  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vibe-Shift-Wokeness-Greenism-Technocracy/dp/106871932X/  🇺🇸 📕 Amazon US: https://www.amazon.com/Vibe-Shift-Wokeness-Greenism-Technocracy/dp/106871932X/  Support spiked: https://www.spiked-online.com/support/  Sign up to spiked’s newsletters: https://www.spiked-online.com/newsletters/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It may not have been an imminent threat now, but neither was North Korea before it got under

0:35.4

her weapon. If you were to freeze this frame right now, one of two things could happen.

0:41.3

One is Iran basically declares victory.

0:44.3

The Arab states, though they've been humiliated and humbled by Iran,

0:49.3

will lack confidence in the staying power of the United States, and they will crawl back to Tehran.

0:53.3

Russia and China will very much accelerate their alliance and arms supplies with Iran.

1:00.0

Hisbalah and Hamas will continue to be serious threats along Israel's borders.

1:04.0

And Iranians will remain along the Straits of Hamoos in one state or another.

1:07.0

The other scenario is that the two weeks now are a tactical move by the president.

1:11.7

Bring in new forces, new aircraft carriers, you know, stay the course. And right now, I can't tell you

1:16.6

which one. But in the Middle East, if you make threats and you don't break them up, you lose a

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