Not to be flippant, but it's like if you don't have haters, then you're not doing it right.

Like, if the NRA is not hating what we're doing, then we're probably not doing enough.

We got to address the suburban women problem because it's real.

Welcome to the suburban women problem, a podcast for red, wine, and blue.

Hi, everyone. Thanks for joining us. I'm Jasmine Clark.

I'm Rachel Vindman. I'm Amanda Weinstein.

And you're listening to The Suburban Women Problem. This week, we're celebrating Juneteenth.

I'll get to share my interview of Joe Banner, who founded the Descendants Project along with her twin sister Joy.

It was so interesting talking to her about the

Descendants Project. It's in Louisiana and she talks about how like she basically left

Louisiana, you know, went off to college, but she came back because it was just like she was

drawn to that community. She just has such strong ties to her community. So it was a really,

really interesting interview. And before that, we'll be joined by Meredith Lawson-Roe, a city councilwoman

in Ohio who's organized Juneteenth celebrations in her town. But first, let's start as always with a check-in. So how are y'all doing and what's been

blowing up our group chat? Oh, man, there's a lot going on. I mean, first, I would like to talk about

your tweet, Jasmine, about what the federal government plans to do on guns. because I thought you had the perfect statement on

this that yes, what they're doing is important, right? Getting to red flag laws that allows judges

to take guns away from people who are a threat to themselves and others, you know, broadening

what we consider, you know, domestic violence offenders to include boyfriends, right? All of these things

are very important and very historic. And what you said was, and we need to do more. Exactly.

Both can be true. Yeah, I think, you know, sometimes it's easy to see what's missing. It's easy to see the parts that you wanted that aren't there

without acknowledging the parts that you want it that are. And so I think it's very important that we

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