We can redefine worker power (with Elizabeth Anderson)

Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Civic Ventures

Business, Government, News, Politics

4.8 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

What are the ethical limits of the market? How do we shift the balances of power back towards workers? What does true freedom really look like? Nick and Goldy explore these questions and more in a fascinating conversation with Philosophy Professor, Elizabeth Anderson. This episode was originally released in September 2020. Elizabeth Anderson is the Arthur F. Thurnau Professor and John Dewey Distinguished University Professor of Philosophy and Women’s Studies at the University of Michigan. She is the author of Private Government: How Employers Rule Our Lives (and Why We Don’t Talk About It), and a recipient of the 2019 MacArthur Fellowship. Private Government: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691176512/private-government The philosopher redefining equality: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/01/07/the-philosopher-redefining-equality Website: https://pitchforkeconomics.com Twitter: @PitchforkEcon Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

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0:00.0	Hi, pitchfork economics listeners. I'm Ashley, one of the producers here at the show.
0:04.6	We're taking a break this summer, which means no new episodes, but in the meantime,
0:09.4	we're re-releasing some of our favorite past episodes.
0:12.8	Like this one, from September 2020, about the ethical limits of the market
0:16.6	with Professor and author Elizabeth Anderson.
0:19.2	Nick and Goldie still rave about their interview with Elizabeth to this day,
0:23.8	so here's hoping that you love it as much as they do.
0:26.8	And just as a friendly reminder, follow or subscribe to the podcast wherever you listen,
0:31.6	and please leave us a five-star rating or review.
0:35.7	There's millions of different ways to write the rules to the market,
0:38.8	and you could write the rules so that instead of empowering just a handful of billionaires
0:43.4	if people at the top, they can actually be empowering the vast majority of people.
0:48.8	Hear that, Nick? They could write the rules to empower me, not just you.
0:57.6	From the home offices of civic ventures in downtown Seattle,
1:02.8	this is Pitchfork Economics, with Nick Hanauer, the best place to get the truth about who gets what and why.
1:15.6	I'm Nick Hanauer, founder of Civic Ventures.
1:18.7	I'm David Goldstein, senior fellow at Civic Ventures.
1:23.8	So, Nick, what is the label that I used to describe you as my employer?
1:32.7	My plutocratic overlord.
1:34.7	Well, my benevolent plutocratic overlord.
1:38.3	That's right, benevolent plutocratic overlord.
1:41.9	And you laugh at that, but you admit there's quite a bit of truth in that statement.
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